believe, according to the "washington post," he has exceeded 15,000 since he took office. it's just one more bit of his messaging, the messaging we can expect throughout this process as the impeachment process leaves the house and heads to the senate, which is controlled by republicans. the question then, again, is how the republicans, each one who has to answer not only for themselves but to their constituents, treats this process and how they move forward. >> david jolly, to kim's point, the republicans she was just talking about, not that they're all not deeply principled people -- these poll numbers out this morning get your attention, and if they are followed by more poll numbers that robust, they're going to get the attention of republicans. >> and the interesting thing in today's poll numbers is that the american people want a fair trial. you know, when we see impeachment yes or no around 50/50, to me that says we have a fully informed public. and generally, we behave in