vote heard. >> you know, i think the political science says that. we've seen a lot of evidence of it lately. i think it depends exactly on what kind of voter suppression it is. there are some kind that have been proposed in some of these states. if you look at 2020 trump i guess he didn't expand the base in the sense he didn't expand it into new demographics, but he did grow the amount of people interested among the white working class base. in these small towns and rurals that turn out is up. here's the thing. the turnout went up that time and a half in the suburbs and cities. it had the negative partisan effect of trump is so great, and i think combining that with this effort to try to suppress the vote has really motivated the democratic base. i think it's an open question whether with him off the ballot and, you know, off of his little blog spot and just given these