years later. >> how do you see, jon meacham, the line from the joe biden who was in the senate in 2001, to the president today? what is his role now as we look back, 20 years ago? >> i think president biden, like president bush, would rise to an occasion if need be. god forbid. president bush wanted to get back to washington as well. he was asking to do it. his father, the one conversation they had that day, as i recall, president bush senior said you need to get back to washington. they both have an intuitive understanding of what the presidency is. it goes back to a sentence that franklin roosevelt wrote, interestingly, on september 11th, 1932, he defined the