deeper dive into project 2025. get to know this thing. it is a 900 page playbook manifests so fr trumps closest allies and far right conservatives laying out what a second trump presidency would look like from day one. here's an example. conservatives should gratefully celebrate the greatest for family win in a generation, overturning roe v wade. a decision that for 5 decorate made a mockery of our constitution and facilitated the death of tens of millions of unborn children. but the dobbs decision is just the beginning. donna, you are the person i want to talk about this with. during the clinton administration, your secretary for the department of health and human services. project 2025 wants to got it and rename it the department of life. you know exactly what this agency does, how important their work is. what is your take on this plan? how alarmed are you?