>> thank you. >> first of all, given what we've just walked through and the history, where do you see this contempt of mr. bannon fitting in? is it a stronger case, or more of a jump ball? >> the fact that the house is pursuing contempt changes against mr. bannon is not a surprise. they've telegraphed that for a long time. and bannon is acting like a man with something to hide, like a man who is guilty. i love how you laid it out in that segment. but this is different from a land deal or the epa, whatever. this goes to the heart of democracy, and what happened on january 6th, an armed attack. and i don't think those earlier precedents tell us too much. in other words, i think the justice department and merrick garland if the house votes for contempt, has to enforce it.