are actually in phoenix where voting rights activists are holding a rally today, which is dr. martin luther king's actual birthday. there is new reporting out this morning that you derrick, around other civil rights leaders met with for kyrsten sinema. tell us what happened in that meeting. >> well, we tried to make the case how important this was. the fact that a procedural rule should not block substantive rights to votes, that she among many others have supported or they claim to support voting rights. but to say they're unwilling to remove the filibuster or do a carveout is nonsenseiccal to say the least. that was earlier this week. fact, that was on wednesday. we seen what happened after the fact, both she and mankin reverted back to their original posture as well as the 15 republicans, 16 of whom supported reauthorization 2006 but holding fast because they are too myopic to expand the