but that is not to say that kanye west should not be held accountable. he absolutely should be held accountable. he went from saying that george bush doesn't care about black people in 2005 to being with trump in the white house with his maga hat. and jay-z addressed that, no more red hat, ultimately. i will say that specifically as we look at the sort of complex case with kanye, we do have to realize that he has to be in a space to understand exactly what he did, the danger that he caused, and then accountability, absolutely. >> agreed. we're out of time. just quickly, yes or no, are you getting the new kanye? >> yes, absolutely. i have to. >> you're buying the new kanye? >> maybe when it comes out. we've been waiting for this album for so long. i have to hear it, i have to see what he has said.