that judge ruled, i think th weisselberg courtroom, with strong and steady fist and i think you will see tha again in this case but again, donald trump and th deposition, donald trump in th courtroom, donald trump in public, when he is under the threat of the justice system holding him to account, is not an easy client for any attorney, because he just doesn't listen to them. and i think what, i think they are telling him to let the process run through and let it follow its own course. and i don't think he will have any intention to listen to that >> tim hague, it's katie phang i had -- michael cohen on my show thi morning, both of whom use th concept that the word petrified, that they think that donal trump is finally going to be scared but you have followed him for long time. you have been in litigatio with him as well when you tend to agree tha despite the fact that he might