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Transcripts for MSNBC The Indictment of Donald Trump 20240604 04:07:00

yes, it was a conversation, it was something that had been floated. but obviously, to read s point the decision has been made t do a speech at mile acho we don t know who is coverin the speech live. but we re glad to hear fro donald trump but he could ve gone to trump towers he didn t need permission from the court. no, that s right. he wanted on fifth avenue i want to scratch the surface on something you said. he may not find out abou what s in those charges unti 2:15 on tuesday. absolutely. in which case, it would b best to take a few hours perhaps, to sit there and say, a high, this may not be what w thought it was and to the weisselberg point, did not know this, katie, when the rev said it could ve bee weisselberg is that last witness, because weisselberg because he s incarcerate, it would go into the cour differently. you wouldn t actually see hi the way you might if you r sticking up the court, you kin of sense those of us who go into th court for the public, it wil be seen by a reporter or a camera somewhere yeah, because he s in an in custody defended that s at rikers i will point out something

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Indictment of Donald Trump 20240604 03:35:00

That told me, oh, that i something i should be paying attention to when th indictment comes out we are so focused on hush mone payments that, there might b bigger, legal concepts and legal words like rico that might not mean much to every day citizens, even - law and order folks, for lawyers like katie, it would b like an alarm. a siren. if that is the case. and we don t want to forget that is why jen inside we re talking about it today on judg show, we don t want to forge all of the legwork that ha been done with the peril investigations between the new york attorney general, letitia james, and cy vance, when he was holding office as the ne york da. there were having an information share. same investigators so because of that evidenc share, a lot of us wer wondering, gosh, that seem like such a strong case. the over inflation of assets deflation of the value o assets it is there for the picking. but is it what it is going t be seen? superseding indictment

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Indictment of Donald Trump 20240604 04:18:00

I don t know what politica calculus he thinks he has by doing what he s doing. i also think that he perhaps has poor advisers that surrounded him and convinced him into believing tha somewhere down the road that h will march ahead and become th front runner if he continues t play, basically, or to wal both sides of the house, which is basically what he s doing and last, i will say, he s actually digging to be trump s running mate, right. i think then i would say tha is genius, if that s what he s trying to do that. everybody starts laughing we re all laughing here. [laughter] hey, olivia, it s katie phang. so, you know, there s this old adage, kid me once, shame on you, kick me twice, shame on me you don t think it s time, olivia, that we kind of thro away any of the expectations o the existing iteration of th gop is going to be, quote, wha we want them to be, or mik pence is going to be the man w want him to be i mean, listen, we ll give him

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Indictment of Donald Trump 20240604 03:14:00

That judge ruled, i think th weisselberg courtroom, with strong and steady fist and i think you will see tha again in this case but again, donald trump and th deposition, donald trump in th courtroom, donald trump in public, when he is under the threat of the justice system holding him to account, is not an easy client for any attorney, because he just doesn t listen to them. and i think what, i think they are telling him to let the process run through and let it follow its own course. and i don t think he will have any intention to listen to that tim hague, it s katie phang i had michael cohen on my show thi morning, both of whom use th concept that the word petrified, that they think that donal trump is finally going to be scared but you have followed him for long time. you have been in litigatio with him as well when you tend to agree tha despite the fact that he might

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Indictment of Donald Trump 20240604 03:15:00

Be scared that finally he ha been didn t dated, there are very serious indictments tha are still kind of coming dow the pipeline from him, he ha no shame so i m going to push back, tim and say that i don t think allen weisselberg do a per walk what actually becom worried. i think that man is never goin to go in the back door of that courthouse he will want to do something i the front of it. you disagree still well, i don t think he is going to go to the back door katie. i think his virtual front door will be a patio in mar-a-lago, or somewhere else. i don t know that he is goin to make a grandstand on th front steps of the courthouse. it could be proven wrong, but don t think his idea of bein on a public stage is where h is being called a suit and

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