witnesses that he can talk to with this. >> let's take a look at rudy giuliani's televised confession when asked the question, did you ask ukraine to investigate joe biden? >> did you ask the ukraine to investigate joe biden? >> no, actually, i didn't. i asked the ukraine to investigate the allegations that there was interference in the election of 2016 by the ukrainians for the benefit of hillary clinton. >> so you did ask ukraine to look into joe biden? >> of course i did. >> john, of course i did. >> of course i did. you know, lawrence, to the point of what barb was saying, i had been joking for a while that rudy giuliani is like donald trump's criminal lawyer except without it lawyer part. increasingly seems to me that is not just a joke, it's true. we're going to see two of his associates hauled into court tomorrow, our friends lev and igor who we met a couple weeks