of all time when clearly that's not true. you just have this absolute sense that all of this is lying. and when you trot out a 10-page memo from a doctor, you know they're likely worried about something, and the problem is the truth is probably that there is something nefarious going on. >> and jim, quickly, before we go, this additional element of, we have not seen the president. when this controversy erupts, one of the very first things i think you would do is say, let's get the president on camera. let's show he's doing just fine. and donald trump inviting in the cameras is something they do all the time, but not since he's gone to the hospital. >> yeah, it's his favorite thing in the world. him being on tv is what he loves more than breathing. so the easiest thing would be to trot him out at the white house and do a quick photo-op. anything would be easy. and why didn't they do that? and, you know, when you start having unnamed doctors start to cover something up, you start to wonder what's going on in the