there is a proposal that manchin himself has put together that cannot pass under the current configuration. and the current configuration is meant to even further intrench minority role. which will make it harder, harder to for democrats to win election light, a lone government. even if they get substantial electoral majorities. >> and, professor car, if you were to open up the 60 vote threshold for let's say, debt ceiling votes. well now you've done it. now, the senators, many for the post time in years have participated in a rule change. and, maybe it won't be quite so hard when you apply that same focus to say, preserving democracy. >> i mean, that's the hope. one of the things --