lawrence, on everything from new tools we can use to battle corruption, like those i wrote about with janet yellen, to tools we can use to combat misinformation, disinformation. we're struggling with that here in the united states on everything from vaccine delivery to politics, and that is a phenomenon in so many pockets in the world and others in civil society and independent media have their tactics they have used to try to win the marketplace of ideas and strengthen independent journalists and strengthen independent voices. so when we sit down, again, it's not a lecture, it's a learning exercise, but also we're getting countries to make commitments that we will then hold them to and that we know journalists and civil society in their own countries will hold them to. so it's also a hook to try to get countries that have been back sliding to move in a more positive direction. >> speaking of countries that have been back sliding, is the