in the united states on everything from vaccine delivery to politics, and that is a phenomenon in so many pockets of the world and others in civil society, independent media have their tactics that they have used to try to win the marketplace of ideas. and strengthen independent journalists, strengthen independent voices. so, when we sit down, again is, snotty lecture. it's a learning exercise, but also we're getting countries to be commitments that we will then hold them to and that we can no journalists and civil societies in their own countries will hold to. so it's also a hope to try to get countries that have been backslided to move ev positive direction. >> speaking of countries that have been backsliding, is the united states of america on that list, given what's happened in some of these republican state legislatures around the country, where they are changing the way votes will be processed, will be counted,