this. >> the second amendment isn't there for hunting rights. it is not there for self-defense. the second amendment is there, the founders put it there, to protect all the others. the ideal thing is to do this peacefully. that's ideal. but the american people, at some point in time, if we can't the tide we need to be prepared to lock and load. so you asked what can we do? show of armed. >> joining us now is democratic congressman haley stevens of michigan. thank you very much for joining us tonight, your state attorney general we put out a written statement saying that of course, intimidating people with firearms at polling places is against the law. but this guys talking about killing people, that's when i