personal feel. let's listen to this. what he said was currently people in the russian army, and in the national guard who are on the ukrainian territory, they are confused. they do not want a war. nobody wants this war. nobody wants to kill the ukrainians. cal perry, what is the ukrainian view of the russian soldiers? are they at any point picking up through the captured russian soldiers that they do -- they aren't really fully supportive of what is happening there? >> yeah, so this is a theme we are seeing every morning on television here. there used to be morning television programs and ukraine. every channel is now broadcasting around the clock coverage, of course, of the war. every morning i wake up, i see a stream of young russian soldiers. some of them are supposedly in country, others are supposedly pilots being shot out of the sky. all of them are being interrogated by somebody from