discharge petition and it apparently scared republicans into thinking it just might work. >> democrats signed a discharge petition that they can release a clean debt ceiling bill, and they only need a handful of republicans. >> the democrats needed five republicans to sign that discharge petition and they could pass it. the democrats were trying to find those five republicans, and the republicans were very afraid they would find those five republicans. and that put all the more pressure on kevin mccarthy to reach a deal with joe biden, the kind of deal kevin mccarthy said he would never make. joe biden is the most experienced president who has ever had to negotiate a debt ceiling bill. negotiating on the debt ceiling is a 21st century phenomenon that only two presidents have really had to do, president obama and president biden. at the present side throughout this negotiation was as highly respected director of the office of the national budget, shalanda young, who previously worked on the appropriations committee and the house of representatives when she earned