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And misogyny. there was absolutely a judgment about her credibility based on what she did for a living and then you have to think to yourself well, wait a second, hope hicks may look the way that she did but she not only worked for trump once, she worked for trump twice. she left the white house in march of 2018, came back to work for the former president, and stayed after he lost the election despite the fact that she was privately advising him that he had lost, and the things that his lawyers and allies were saying about his not losing the election and his wedding were fraudulent. she still stayed so i have to question like, who lacks credibility now? >> so fascinating to hear those stories. the legal brains in the room were hyper focused on the defense chick strategy to go hard after stormy daniels on cross-examination, but not hope hicks or david pecker. our panel, which had a front row seat to it all, is back.

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