it didn't start in 2016. i said in 2015, donald trump got in the white house, he would never leave peacefully. there were journalists who said that that was way out there. turns out i was right about that. and donald has been working on trying to subvert our democracy and stay there. -- when he took a meeting with kremlin agents or -- his son don jr. took it. let's remember what the mueller report was talking about. the russian government in a sweeping, and aggressive fashion interfered, extensively in the 2016 election. that is paraphrasing. >> so, you're right to bring up some of his past. i'm also intrigued by he did have to text mark meadows, and not his own father, which tells us a lot about the relationship between the two. david cay, johnston will have to leave it there. the book is the big cheat how