aspires to. but putin was the one that framed it that way. and i think that's why the biden administration rightly is now pushing back, to try to change the narrative. i would like to see them go farther by the way. i hear lots of people debating nato expansion, and what georgia cuff said, jill maker 30 years ago. i'd like to hear a lot more about russia annexing crimea. violating one of the principal tenants of the united nations that was established the rule of the game in 1945. what about talking a little bit more about recognizing parts of georgia as being independent countries? those are the conversations that we're not having and that's a victory for putin's information campaign. >> so, you'd like to see a sort of wholesale reframing of exactly what is coming to pass here, or what has come to pass? i just i wonder though -- this radical transfer apparently that yet reassurances today from russian foreign minister, sergey lavrov,