>> george, you are a conservative. let me turn to you on this. the reality is, you know, donald trump is not a politician. he's just a stand-in for people who are mad at the world, right. and he somehow managed to convince them that his personal legal peril, he stole those classified documents. he sexually abused e. jean carroll. he is the one who lied about the election and got people to commit crimes because they're stupid enough to do it. he did it, but he somehow managed to convince all of these millions of people that those are things that are their real problem. >> right, i mean, it's a cult. that's what it comes down to. the republican party has gone beyond the realm of reason. rheen, facts, none of that matters to the base of the republican party. it's just the giant fantasy where donald trump is competent and a good person, innocent, and picked upon by everybody else. >> god. >> godly, don't forget. >> if not god himself. >> absolutely. anything that contradicts that, no matter how factual it is, no