that's the fate. so just made us halfway, i think is the real thing. >> really quick before we go. can i play a clip? play the clip. play the clip. >> it's nice to have a space, a safe space, as you talked about in the of, where we can speak truthfully. and i think this is a podcast for everyone, if you have intellectual curiosity about your fellow countrymen who don't look like you. this is a place where you can come and hear that. >> very quickly, that name in that voice should sound familiar. tiffany cross. >> tiffany cross! >> very quickly, tell us about native land pod. >> native land pod is a -- native land pot, first episode drops today. people are loving it. it's me, andrew gillum, and tiffany cross. >> my longtime business partners. joy, you are something else. >> i'm gonna support my friends that i love. i'm so excited about native land pod.