the afghan defense forces to even resist the taliban rather than surrender at the risk of their own lives. kevin how do you see it? >> all day i've seen a lot of these comments, aimed at the u.s. leadership from day one. arguing that the american people have been lied to. are that every time a general said that they thought progress was being made, that somehow that general is lying. i don't believe that. and i say that with some seriousness. i've spent the last decade myself covering the pentagon, more than a decade actually. and many times in my role, you cover the leadership. you cover the four stars, the three stars, the chairman who go in and out. and i believe a lot of them who's cycle in, they are handed the problem. and it's their job to assess it. and then move it forward. and they have a mission. that mission may have been hamstrung, and may have been wrong, and may have been