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MSNBC Up With David Gura October 12, 2019 13:21:00

here. all these so-called oligarchs there. some are billionaires. some are operatives and these people essentially are move iin around money to purchase their own influence. to advance their own interests. you have a lot of americans have tried to profit off that. paul manafort has been convicted for trying to get his hands on all this money, doing these people favors. so rudy giuliani now is like i have access to the president of the united states. i'd like to make a buck off that so i'm going to help these men steer political contributions, which are illegal, to u.s. members of congress. i'd like to have them pay me a retainer because i'm close to the president of the united states. at the same time, the president ant wants to get this ambassador out because she won't investigate joe biden. so you've got trump try iing to corrupt foreign policy service political interests and giuliani trying to help him do that, trying to make a buck off the

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