gives a nod to the mural report as well and what was outlined therein. what do we learn from this, how this is going to be sold, how the truth is going to be sold or communicated to the american people? >> the democrats have tried to follow the facts to this point. they've also tried to be very transparent about that to present that as such to the american people, because they're aware the president carping about the process, portraying all of this as a partisan sham and so they are trying to counter that, you know, optically. the problem is that the president has been successful in keeping his base right where it is. the numbers haven't really moved much on impeachment and democrats know they are trying to be transparent and open about the process, about the evidence, really wanting to put the evidence forward here, so that the country understands why they're doing this and that it's not about partisan politics. but the democrats have also conscious of the clock and not wanting to let this continue for