>> absolutely. and we're out of excuses on this. if we were not remedying the problem of poverty, at least its immediate symptoms, the racial injustice, the criminal justice and so on, but the immediate symptoms, the hardship felt by families, it is a political choice. that was targeted money going to middle income and low-income americans. that's the most unprecedented deal that was done. but we're out of excuses on this. like if you are serious about trying to save tens of millions of americans and tens of millions of kids from low-income and the hazards of malnourishment giving them a decent platform for their education in a later life, we know what to do. >> we're out of excuses and we have a test project and we know it works and we know it's relatively easy. you said something interesting about it doesn't fix racial