if not all democratic votes in the senate on this. and maybe a couple of votes, republican votes in the senate. susan collins, always an enigma on the question of abortion and its legality, has suggested -- she's been floating the idea that she would support codifying abortion rights into law. she's often said things about abortion rights that have not played out in her actions. has she talked to you or have you talked to her. is there a possibility that she could sign on to this? >> well, i definitely know that the senate whip committee, such as as senator blumenthal who's the lead author on the senate side has reached out to susan collins. they have asked her to support this. she purports to be pro-choice. and in fact, these positions got her elected in a very tight election this past time in a state that is considered a swing state. and yet, she is kind of talking