to see you have this conversation. medicine understood the importance of virtue. she understood that virtuous people were necessary for democracies to work. all about who we take ourselves to be. the moral question is at the heart of it. we vote for fall, they represent us in power and we think we got our job. >> they are there to do the work. >> democracy is more than the ballot box. democracy is what we do prior to elections and after elections. if we are not working on ourselves, if we are not working on becoming better people, that is the short end of the book. if we are the leaders we been looking for, we have to be better people. if we are going to be better people, we have to build a better world. >> it sounds lofty but in fact, the stuff you talk about is not about. it may have outcomes, results but you are talking about planting seeds whose shade you may not sit under.