these contact in ukraine with officials and other prosecutors giving him the ammunition to feed to the president and to feed to journalists like john solomon on the hill and to build the case that there was something impopper about what the ukrainians were up to during the 2016 election and also that there might be more to the biden story. >> so, let's also look at their presence, may, i think it was, 2018? both of these guys dined at the white house. they met with donald trump jr. later in that month, but the president says he doesn't know them. take a listen. >> you're in pictures with him. >> it's possible i have a picture with him because i have a picture with everybody. >> have you talked with them? >> i don't know if there's anybody i don't have pictures with. i don't know them. i don't know about them. i don't know what they do. but i don't know. maybe they were clients of rudy.