reaction from kelly only do, and what -- kelly o'donnell. and what is the white house saying? >> there is an assertion that what is coming out after the closed door meetings is incomplete and selective. there is a window of time between when the witnesses complete their testimony and before the actual transcript of their deposition is released publicly. in that gap, we are left with good old fashioned reporting where our colleagues on the capitol hill team have been able to talk to the lawmakers and you have just did, to get a sense of what is transpiring in the room, and sources affiliated with some of the witnesses themselves to get a picture of what was said. in some instances like in the case of david holmes, we had an opening statement shared with us, and we were able to report on that, but we don't have the full transcript. and so there is a gap in time between the end of testimony,