Element two, similar. I think everybody agrees. And when yyou put them together frankly, the democrats agree that you need Border Security. Our wonderful producers put them they agree that you need a back to back. There are the states that are barrier. I put out a quote this morning impacted. There are the states where of barack obama. I put out a quote this morning senators will start getting phone calls. Fox news has to keep this off of Hillary Clinton in 2015. Donald trump because it is that was a few years ago. Republican senators who are strongly saying that you need a yes. I cant believe they trying to border to keep illegals out. Rebrand the shutdown as the pelosi shutdown because we have thats what you have to have. That very clear sound bite from its not just illegals. The Schumer Pelosi meeting. Where trump said that he its criminals. Would own it. Its drugs. Yes. He said he will take the mantle. Its the new phenomena thats and he wouldnt blame it on the been ageold. Good morning. Welcome to a. M. Joy. Democrats. But i cant stop thinking about you heard donald trump there these federal workers because speaking to reporters on his way trump doesnt know what it is like to live paycheck to to camp david. Paycheck. A lot of these tsa agents are his Vice President mike pence single parents, they dont know continues negotiations at the white house to end the where their next pay check is Government Shutdown. Going to come from. I want to play another sound they cant get medicine from bite, this one from acting chief their children. And trump is living in his of staff Mick Mulvaney fantasy world and he doesnt understand the real worlded world implications of his words. Acting. Talking about Donald Trumps metaphorical wall. The president really does donald trump has never had to believe you can solve this in live pay check to paycheck. Ten minutes. We are asking for 5. 6 billion. He inherited 4 413 million. They are offering zero. It sounds like we are arguing about one variable which is how much will we spend on the so he doesnt understand what it means not to be able to pay your barrier on the southern border, on the wall, on the steel slat represent. Fence, whatever you call it. He is did you hear that . Rent. We have now reached the point in hes never been a ten nachbts, he is a plan lord. This season of our national and so you look at the things that are happening. Reality show where donald trump but fox news and you hudience is desperately offering up anything anything at all just to get something he can call a can. Local coast guard families decry wall. A wall over which donald trump shutdowns slap in the face as has shut down the government endangering the basic economic they borrow maybe from pay day lenders to pay bills. Wellbeing of 800,000 federal i mean, then youve got farmers, workers and millions of americans who depend on federal these are other people who many employment, federal agencies, of them are republicans. U. S. Department of agriculture and the businesses connected to them. Is not processing any new farm a wall that, according to his own former advisers, as reported loans, loans for Rural Development or grants for low by the New York Times, was not income rural americans. Even a real thing. It was, instead, a pnemonic the implementation of the new farm bill could be delayed. Device roger stone made up so farmers cannot apply for the payments trump promised them to the candidate who hated to read offset the tariffs that he would remember to bash imposed on agricultural exports. Immigrants during campaign so people will start to lose stops. A wall donald trump is afraid to real money in red states. Walk away from. Absolutely. And lets look at a couple quick now that he said it so many numbers. 60 of americans dont have 1,000 in their savings account. Times at Campaign Rallies where meaning if you are a typical he also said mexico would pay american and you are working for the government now, you are not getting paid for weeks and for it, right wing media members weeks, you cant pay your mortgage, you cant pay your wont let him walk away. Rent or child care. And secondly Going Forward if he cant because he could face there is no government funding, food is stamps will not be indictment or impeachment funded. Without them. And 20 million children a month we are in the 16th day over a memory device, a madeup piece depend on food stamps. That means that children will go of campaign rhetoric. Hungry because of donald trump, it would be like bill clinton because he takes his from basic shutting down the government cable and not the good basic over a promise to build a cable like this one, the fox literal bridge to the 21st century or barack obama because news basic cable which tells him he wanted 5 billion earmarked stand strong. Donald trump tweeted that all for yes we cans. The democrats were not working. There is no end in sight to this so me that says so much. He sees america as his base Government Shutdown. Things are only going to get versus the rest of us. And im not being snarky when i worse from here for republicans, for donald trump and for say donald trump is not my millions of americans who are president. Joy, hes not your president. About to find out just how much he doesnt want to be our the federal government does. President. He only wants to be president of his base. Thats who he cares about, not joining me now, e. J. Deyoung, the United States of america. And because of that this shutdown will continue, people msnbc contributor and columnist for the Washington Post, maria will suffer and bottom line, trump doesnt care if you suffer. Cumar, president of voter that is the reality. He is about cruelty. Latino, jamil smith from rolling and the thing is, gabriel, he stone and kaden dawson, has guy in the white house, bill republican strategist. Shine, whose job it is to manage youre at a disadvantage, youre the imaging of the president to deans point just to the base. Not here with us so ill go to that is who he is always only you first. One of the reasons donald trump talking to. But they are not going to be for now has been able to get immune we just showed the away with this with his base is partly because he can get away with anything with his base. But a lot of people and man hopefully im not just speaking mans maps from the impacts. For the right, on your side of they are on military bases, on the aisle, think of the federal Forestry Service jobs. Government as bean counters so he has to deal with that. This morning the tactic that sitting in washington. Bill shine im assuming is forgetting federal workers are behind rolling out is for donald everywhere. Trump to do this wide ranging i want to show you graphics. Press conference to try to lure this is a map of where federal cable media to cover it. Workers live. In washington, d. C. , yes. Also in georgia. These are the toip itopic he we in Washington State federal to. Interest rates, clk, john ebojo workers make up more than 10 of the metro area workforce. I want to show you another map. These are states most impacted other people in his cabinet, by the Government Shutdown. Jerusalem,elect electoral victo. Its all over the country. A lot of those are your states. And here is the one bite that we thats the south, the west. Have. Look, they have to do what they are. These are states where people they have to do. Many of those workers agree he with me. Will be hurting soon if the i dont like doing this. Government isnt reopened. I have no fun doing this. At what point do republican i was elected to protect our voters say, wait a minute, the federal workforce is in my town. Country. Thats what im doing. Reopen the government. And president s before me have joy, let me tell you, the all voted for this or many of Republican Base is pretty solid. Them and many of the senators that im gosh greati ingnegotia to make the politics of it, there are winners and losers in now have voted for this. A Government Shutdown. But they didnt have the guts to probably not. Do it. Are there political winners and just like they didnt have the guts to move the embassy to losers in a Government Shutdown . Yes. On this one, i equate it a lot jerusalem. They didnt have the guts to do to donald trump promised this. Things that they should have the same thing barack obama done. For the record, that is full promised health care. We as republicans thought we of lies. Could win an election because there is no one who said they wanted to shut the government you couldnt choose your own doctor, couldnt do this and the done for a wall except him. Is that going to work, gabe . President said you know, we were wrong because the american i think what this really shows is we have to flashback to public didnt turn their back on what he promised. The fact that donald trump was donald trump promised to secure willing to cave on the wall and that southern border. In fact he stopped calling it a wall, he called it slats or a if he doesnt, the peril that fence. And it was only until fox news rebelled and others, tucker will come from that will be carlson and Laura Ingraham and massive from his base in the party whether its aviation ann coulters xhentd comments assets, a wall of cement, steel, that he would be a failed thats semantics. President were he to panic and my friend, katen, you know i dug in. So this is all donald trump governing just because he saw the possibility of a revolt from love you. His base. President obama promised health the person im watching throughout all this is going to care when he actually meant going back to when he was a be Mitch Mcconnell because he state senator. Said that he will not really he actually wanted health care take up any issue that he knows reform. This is a New York Times piece the president wont sign. But at some point as you showed in which Donald Trumps own that map, caucus will start to adviser said his promise to build a wall wasnt a real thing get antsy. He was promising them. Weve seen some republican it was a rhetorical device so he senators break with the president on this. Would remember to talk about and at some point Mitch Mcconnell could go to trump and immigration. He wasnt promising to build say listen, my guys are getting them a physical wall. Killed here. He was saying like yes, we can, you have to end this. And that is i think where the or build a bridge to the 21st democrats are going to have century. I joked about it, but if bill leverage. Absolutely. Look at that map of the South Clinton said we are really where the states most impacted, building a bridge to the 21st a lot of military bases. He will start getting some calls century people would have said from republicans who are like he was crazy. Donald trump just said it how long are we supposed to go because it was a Great Campaign on with this. This is a case of rich media device. People telling a rich media yo can you really if he told his base hes not doing it, they person who is president that you would be like, okay. Anything he says they would be cant back done on something that is hurting ordinary working okay with. Why not say it was a rhetorical people. Yeah, i mean it is this total device. Fox fantasy. You can put the face on the completely devoid from reality, wall easily. I disagree. You can see the numbers. People understand drug devoid of the fact that he is traffickers and cartels. Harming his own viewers. They understand human were to the point i mean the trafficking and criminals. They understand the illegal fox trump relationship has aspect. They also now are beginning to always been dangerous, but now understand how long the wall is it is affecting the federal government in a specific way and now it is impossible to tell who and how big it is. 697 something miles of cover. Is influencing who. Drug traffickers can get on a plane. I want to go to maria teresa trump flewi ifluencing fox or t other way around . We saw reporting where any cumar. On the dawson side of the ledger didnt really understand what a shutdown would do, they didnt the argument is made that all of understand that it would affect the irs, food stamps, national the people trying to come through the southern borders are security. Just a bunch of criminals and at that marathon of lie, someone asked about the safety net for dug traffickers. No, no. Furloughed workers. Which is not true. His response made clear that he you went right to drug has no idea what the phrase safety net means in the federal traffickers. When people know agriculture government context. Workers go back and forth. People go to school back and so this is very dangerous stuff. Forth across the border. All the time. We are in sort of or wellian just ordinary commerce. Not crime and drugs. If you have been at the southern propaganda, weve always been at war with east asia, this crisis border its just natural that doesnt exist at the traffic. I came from el paso a couple border. And the last point, as weve all of days ago. Part of my family lives there. Discussed, this is political it is the safest city in the suicide. The Republican Party just ran on border hysteria, had their worst country. El paso, literally. It shares a border with juarez. Midterms since watergate and now trump is tripling down on all of donald trump has created a trumped up notion that we have it and living in this fox world to secure the border because it fantasy. Is the only thing that rallies ill jump back to xwab fgabe his base. In fact, its detrimental to the second. Is someone at fox news wellbeing of americans. President . I mean i dont mean that in a right now with this government glib way. Shutdown hes saying what he if donald trump can only do what said in his breaking news. Its okay. Laura ingraham and company say people will adjust. He can do or ann coulter say he the average americans median savings is 11,000. Functionally the president . That doesnt last long. Should democrats be negotiating when hes threatening to shut with them . As much as we laugh, you have down the government for years, to laugh so you dont cry, you shame on him. We depend on these individuals know, i feel like back when to be our safety. The tsa is going to be roger ailes ran fox, i think there was a Single Person you could point to to say this is its all over the country. This is a charade. Where the messaging originated. And now it is really a we know immigration levels are down in the southern border distributed form of power where since 2008. They have historically kept the individual hosts have the going down. Direct line to the president so individuals that are fleeing people like sean hannity, host their countries are people of fox and friends in the seeking political asylum. Morning, and others can get through to the president. If we can talk about immigration there is not one person per se, reform, absolutely. We need sound borders, sound but as you point out, i think that the collective hole, the security. He doesnt know how to legislate. He doesnt know how to lead. His only talking point now is idea that network is secretary government policy is something let me scare the American People not out of the realm of to their detriment. Absurdity and i think people should actually be thinking jamil, youre from california. The states most impacted even if about that. Whether nancy pelosi and chuck it was possible to build a wall schumer sits down with brian and across the southern border, it is not. Go to google earth. A lot of the border is water. Steve doocy to mahash out borde at lot of it is desert, of it policy is another matter. Maybe we should build a wall around fox news to keep them safe. And i want to point out one have to seize private property. Thing. Fox news has never existed to be talk about it a little bit from an economic standpoint. A governing vehicle. A lot of the federal workers are it has been an outrage machine. In california. Right. There is a lot of forest, forest workers. Three people have died in they have done their most National Parks because of success when they are in the depleted amounts of staff and opposition. So the fact that they are trying people still going in. To dictate policy, weve seen right. This is not just about bean the disastrous results of that. Counters in washington who also and talk radio is the other need their jobs. Element of this. Rush limbaugh was bragging that right. People all over the country like in california as well are donald trump essentially came to without money now. Him for permission to set right. Policy. We are seeing essentially you do a talk radio show. I know a lot of conservatives america without adult supervision. We have seen it throughout the call in and are you yet trump presidency, of course. We are seeing it really in our detecting anyone saying wait a minute, i didnt legalize my parks. Previous president s closed the parks during government che realize my check wasnt come shutdowns to avoid these something. It is stunning. Incidents, avoid excrement on the idea they were promised mexico was going to pay for the the sides of the road, people wall didnt seem to bother them potentially doing dangerous acts that donald trump has reneged on that. Some progressives actually or desecrating the parks, trump support a wall, but that is a left them open. Wall around donald trump, a people have gone to joshua tree different type of wall. But the reality is that progressives who call my show and, you know, desecrated the are very clear and the grass parks. Roots base is very clear, do not yosemite and urinated on the side of the roads. Give a penny to Donald Trumps wall. And democrats, you do that at what we are seeing is a mess your peril of your own base that frankly will be difficult peeling away from you and coming out against you because it is to clean up afterwards. And expensive. So, you know, look, people not the get along go along type are saying that he promised them of scenario. Democrats want results and they a wall promised them was white will hold those they elected in s