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MSNBCW Dateline July 3, 2024

A moment. It is now 9 00. You are watching Sunday Morning with trevor phillips. Revor phi United States. Iran says the attack has concluded that israel remains on high alert. No one was killed in there was almost no damage. It is deescalation and is really Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has spoken to President Joe Biden who will call a meeting of g7 leaders later. In the glast hour, the secreta told this program that the United Kingdom military jets were sent to the region overnight but the government here wants to see deescalation. Lets get the latest now again from the region. Our correspondent is live in jerusalem for us. Alastair, the israeli war cabinet is going to meet today. What will be in front of that group . And what do you think they will be saying to each other . R . Reporter they will be doing a situational assessment. Firstly they will be looking ate what they know about the attacks last night. What did iran use to throw at israel and not just iran, we know that the attacks also emanated from lebanon, yemen, and iraq. So, what intelligence had they gathered to build a bigger and more detailed picture about this iranian attack and how well did their own systems and i should add to that, their own allegiance with the United States and United Kingdom, how well did they function in terms of protecting israel . The answer is very well indeed. The idea in their preliminary assessment believe 99 of the drones and missiles fired at israel were shut down. If you look at the damage assessment, that is pretty minimal, too. A child in the south of the country badly injured, but i think doing okay. The only injury we have been told about in terms of actual material damage, the worst seems to be a direct hit on a Israeli Air Base but not so severe that it has stopped the airbase from function. The military this morning were broadcasting live footage of jets taking off and landing there. To make that point. So, israel, in a way, has sustained an unprecedented, very large attack, more than 300 jets and more than 130 Ballistic Missiles but it has mi sustained and has defended its guide successfully. It has come away from pretty much unscathed. So, that will be seeing as a major plus point but will retaliation from israels position be necessary . Because image is everything her in the middle east and israel will want to make sure it has restored. Thank you very much. Mu back with me now is our International Affairs editor. Lets talk about the politics in israel and then the wider situation. They were saying that there is an issue here which is within israel itself, what is good for Benjamin Netanyahu may not be great for israel. So, what about the politics of israel and how was that going to affect the decisionmaking of the war cabinet . The background for this is un before the war and october 7th and the terrible day of massacres and the area around gaza, Benjamin Netanyahu was a weakened Prime Minister. He was trying to push through judicial reforms that had alienated the more liberal secular part of Israeli Society and it was a more divided and polarized society. The people we were speaking to, a man whose family was kidnapped, but saw himself as a secular israeli living in tel aviv. He said, i want to go to war. I am waiting for my recruiting papers, but i am being t criticized by all the groups that that i wasnt patriotic during the protest weve been carrying out against Benjamin Netanyahu. This war hasnt helped in some ways around that but has rounded israelis around the government, particularly around the military. I think what is happened overnight will have strengthened many to some point but i think there will be israelis who will be worried about the fact that the attack on the embassy and damascus on april 1st led to this but i think israelis will be reassured by the fact that it seems their air defenses held up and very much so that the allies, the british, french, german, and reckons, rallied around israel but also some arab states seem to help israel. But i think at the heart of it, israelis remain deeply worried. They are in a situation where the war in gaza does not seem to be achieving any of its objectives. And the region is certainly not getting any more stable. Im going to come back and ask you about that a little bit later, but i want to talk to i want to bring you the interview we did earlier on with Yvette Cooper. Labore condemns what he called the unacceptable attacks by the Israeli Regime and says the party will stand up for Israel Security and we must do all we can to prevent a wider war. A a little earlier, i spoke to i the secretary Yvette Cooper. We strongly condemn this reckless attack by iran on israel. There has been a real concern from the very beginning about the risks of escalation and whilst the International Community has been urging restraint dead, iran has chosen to do the opposite. I think all of our concerns will be for the security of th people across the region now and it is very important that Everything Possible is done to prevent further escalation and to try and maintain Peoples Security in the region. The risk of escalation in a moment, but it is reported that there has been British Military involved. We are not clear about what it is, but rf has been involved in some way, shape or form. Are you supportive of that . As you said, we dont know the details but clearly it is in everyones interest to e prevent the iranian attack actually having a much potentially more serious impact on peoples lives in, of course, if uk forces are involved as part of the defense, that is really important and you would expect that sort of thing to happen but i think the most important thing now is to prevent escalation. This is about the security of israel, e but also the security of jordan, iraq, other partners that we have in the region, and people across the middle east where the government has rightly said it is working now to try to stabilize the situation. The uk government that it is working to stabilize the situation because nobody wants to see further blood to take place. I know it is impossible in these kinds of situations to be precise about what your reaction might be, but broadly speaking, were our government to decide that it had to engage in the military fashion, and anyway, would labor broadly speaking be in support of that if it is part of something that the allies of israel undertake . I think this is exactly the wrong time to speculate about me what may happen next. Both the uk government and the Prime Minister say the importance of the International Work now in order to prevent further escalation in the region. Nobody wants to see a wider regional war in the middle east and that is what all efforts now have to be around. There has been talk about the u. N. Security council discussing this around the g7 discussing this as well. I think that is what everyone is focusing on but this has been part of a continued operation by iran, by the iranian regime, to destabilize the middle east often through different proxies, through support for hezbollah, or for hamas. And the Security Threats that that can compose. Its really important that restraintst is part of what Th International committee has been urging. And to strongly condemn the response from iran. Ro the key player today, of course, will be israel itself. There are many voices saying, as you say, restraint, but there are also voices israel has to do demonstrate that it will be pushed around and it is strong and sound. What would be your message to the israeli war cabinet . I think our concern is for, as it has always been through this, is to ensure that we dont have a Wider Regional War Take place in the middle east. That would be deeply damaging for israel, it could be deeply damaging for People Living across the middle east. That is immensely important. To do something that the uk government has talked about the labor party, the labor party has talked about all through this. We obviously are continuing to argue for the immediate cease fire that is needed in gaza where so many lives have been lost, where we need the release of the hostages, and we need not just the security, but also the humanitarian aid that is definitely needed but we also in the light of what is wh happening, we need this concerted action of all countries, not just in the region, but internationally, working to prevent further escalation in the light of these appalling attacks. Pa this is the middle east an gaza specifically. There are different views within the party. Is there any risk here, do you think, that there may be different points of view emerging because there are some people, i guess, in the labor party who say the problem with israels attack on damascus. We have seen there is a history here for irans operations in the region. We have seen not just their operations in the region, but i obviously seen deeply concerning over some Time Operations in other countries as well. Including concerns about the Rgc Operations in the uk where we have seen attacks on iranian, the journalist and other concerns more widely about security as well as their long standing operations within the region. That is why i think it is important for all of us to of strongly condemn the Iranian De Attacks and their decision to escalate things. So, i think that is important and i think everybody would agree with that. All right. You wont be surprised that i want to ask you about the situation with there is a Police Investigation going on so obviously we cant discuss right and wrongs of that, but one of the things i think is interesting is she repeatedly said that she was advised legally, she done nothing wrong, but they say a member of his team have not seen that advice and is is he reluctant to trumped up why does he not know what databases . Angela welcomes the opportunity to set out all of the facts. The police, the hr mc, or the appropriate authorities. In iashe has done the right thi by taking an independent legal advice and has been clear throughout that she has acted in accordance with it. I wouldnt expect to see her personal advice to personal finances of any of my colleagues but i think angela has handled this in the right way. I welcome the opportunity to be able to. That really wasnt what i asked about her is puzzling that the leader says members of my team have read this advice but i have not. Is that delivery . I think that is a perfectly reasonable thing. You used to criticize Boris Johnson for not reading his no papers but this is a big deal a for labor. Why doesnt he acquaint himself with his own deputys defense and advice . They have a strong team around him and rightly so. That is why i think not only have they looked at this and be clear about it, but also angela has as well. Angela is a brilliant Deputy Leader of our party and she will continue campaigning and continue working. Just as all of us are. She will not be deterred by b what we know will be political questions. You say that, but lets be honest. The reason this is an issue more than any other, some people would say and i think i would agree, at some level it is not the biggest of deals, however, here is the reason why it is a problem for angela. When Boris Johnson was investigated she insisted that the mere fact of an of investigation being launched should have been enough to provoke his resignation. Here is what she said. Boris johnsons Downing Street is under investigation how on earth does she think she can stay at Deputy Leader of the labor party . I think these are different circumstances. The issues that have been raised, about what happened nearly 10 years ago before angela became an mp. She said somebody is under investigation and they shouldnt be in high office. This is about the context of the investigation that was happening while the Prime Minister was in Downing Street at already been raising continuing concerns. About what he had said in parliament, about him misleading parliament, about not getting Accurate Information when he was responsible for all of these things. I do think why do the rules apply to him and not to her . There is a different situation and i think angela i has said at one point she said, if the Prime Minister was to publish all of his tax returns from the time before he was an mp, she would do the same. This is a different situation a because we are talking before angela became an mp. But the only thing that is different here is that angela has said, which is all was stripped up also what you said around the allegations, about it was if she has committed a criminal offense she would resign. We never had that not just from the former Prime Minister that the current Prime Minister and a series of other conservatives. I think there is a big is difference and that is why i think everybody supports the strong campaigning that angela is doing. We shall see how this develops. Thank you for your time. Still with me is craig oliver, tom, i guess that is the right place for them to be, isnt it . I think it also holds the government to account. Is not unquestioning a position and you have seen labor shift position in accordance with events. Now scrutinizing whether it should begin the himself to israel. I think it is the right thing to do. But if we are going to get anything other than Regional Proxy or global in the end, there will have to be compromised. There will have to be a cease fire and further steps towards some sort of solution. There are lots of activists who dont want that. I think nobody is right to continue to have a nuanced grownup stable position because in the end, there was a big speech about this, the color of peace is never black or white. It is always gray. We do not need posturing hybrid as politicians. You were saying earlier on, this is the way labor demonstrates readiness for government but craig oliver, can they is it a factor for the government, number 10, how the opposition behaves . To an extent. I think the reality is the opposition will never make a huge amount of impact in the in circumstances. I think what Yvette Cooper was trying to do is take the i opportunity to reassure people that the labour party has changed dramatically from the days of as i was listening to her, i was imagining what this day would be like. The labour party would be a painful day with lots of people attacking the labour party. What she has effectively done is say, look, we are grown up and we are going to support our government and the u. S. Government. I think that is actually the rope as far as Domestic Politics goes Opposition Peer to present themselves as grown ups who the public could imagine sitting in that room and running things. I think possibly at the moment, the only good in the conservative Deck Of Cards is i david cameron. When you put them trumped up it doesnt look as much of a grown up. So, i would not be surprised to see more. I wouldnt be surprised to see quite a bit more of him. If he wants to call and we will take his call. Next, just how big of a threat to the Conservative Party we were going to talk to reform but he had to move to next weekw we are going to go to a break. R thank you very much. Her uncles unhappy. Im sensing an underlying issue. Its tmobile. It started when we tried to get him under a new plan. But they they unexpectedly unraveled their price lock guarantee. Which has made him, a bit. Unruly. You called yourself the uncarrier. You sing about price lock on those commercials. the price lock, the price lock. so, if you could change the price, change the name its not a lock, i know a lock. So how can we undo the damage . We could all unsubscribe and switch to xfinity. Their connection is unreal. And we could all unexperience this whole session. Okay, thats uncalled for. Gold earlier in the program the Health Secretary told us uk military jets were sent to the middle east but this was thought to be in support of other Ongoing Operations in the region. Lets talk now to our event editor Deborah Haines was in brussels. Good morning. Good morning. What is our role here . What is the uk play . The uk is a close supporter of israel but it is taking an interesting stance in terms of the way it is describing its role. The u. S. Military has very clearly said its just for flying in support of the Israeli Operations to defend its airspace overnight from this unprecedented Irani Barrage of ballistic Crews Missiles and explosive drones. For the uk, they said they deployed additional jets, along with refueling tanker aircraft. To an airbase we have where the uk already has a deployment. It has been there for years oper

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