Night. You can read the latest and theres a business week magazine exclusive interview with the president of the United States, barack obama. The president had lots to say about lots of stuff. Until tomorrow. Coming up, hardball with chris matthews. Tie goes to the republicans. Lets play hardball. Good evening. Im joy reid in for chris matthews. The Supreme Court delivered a blow to president obamas immigration policy. The judgment is affirmed by an equally divided court. Translation, its a tie. The court split 44 essentially delivering no decision at all. An Appeals Court ruling that blocked the program for being implemented, stands for now. The president called the news heartbreaking for millions of immigrants. The fact the Supreme Court wasnt able to issue a decision today doesnt just set the system back even further. It tabs kes us further from the country we aspire to be. More fully contribute to this country we all love in an open way. Republicans celebrated. They say the president overstepped his authority issuing the executive order shielding millions of immigrants. Here is the speaker of the house r , paul ryan. This is a win for the institution. Its wane for congress and to
restore the separation of powers. President s dont write laws. Congress writes laws. Todays news could have huge implication for the 2016 race. Hillary clinton and donald trump differ sharply on immigration. Trump says he wants to deport all 11 million undocumented immigrants and build a really big wall. Earlier today she responded in a phone interview. My heart is breaking for the five Million People in this country who have been waiting for the decision and are facing deportation, living with fear every single day. This decision leaves these families with fear. Its devastating, wrong and we must do better. A very formal sounds statement from donald trump read todays 44 Supreme Court ruling
has blocked one of the most unconstitutional actions ever undertaken by a president. You couldnt have a starker divide coming up for American People in november on immigration. Is the issue of immigration enough to galvanize the Latino Community which has undervoted its share of the population . I think its going to help. This decision really, is a travesty. I agree with secretary clinton it is heartbreaking because it means more families will be subject to deportation. These are people that have been here for years and years. These kids often times only know the United States as their home. Now they live in fear of being deported and separated from their family. Its going to motivate many of
the Latino Community to come out. Ive said the Dreamer Movement needs to transform into a motivation movement. Is that under way. We heard about some desperate efforts to register millions of latino voters. Is that under way in the Democrat Party . It could always be better. It is more advanced. President obama took a swipe. Leaving the broken system the way it is, thats not a solution. We can deport 11 Million Peopleor build a wall without spends taxpayer money is abetting what is really just factually incorrect. Its not going to work. Its not good for this country. Its fantasty. Im sure you have seen the trump rally where he starts the chant of build a wall. Is that spect cal. Do those image, is that in and of itself galvanizing to a community that has not voted its population. It is. Ive had people who say they will vote for the first time because theyre going to vote against donald trump because hes scaring them. Its not just latinos but also
asian americans and other immigrant communities. He started his campaign with a real slander and has been extremely divisive stoking peoples fear and added to this incredib t feel in the 2016 election season. Lastly, congressman, does Hillary Clinton have to do more than just rely on peoples fear of donald trump to get the latino vote out. Maybe picking a latino running mate. Do you have any suggestions of a name you want to look into . I think shes going to do every single thing she can to get out latino voters and all americans. Shes going to pursue a 50state strategy. I saw a poll that had her up by a few points in arizona. Florida has a good chance of doing democratic, arizona and also georgia. I know she will do everything she can to get folks out to
vote. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Im joined by michael steele, the former chairman of the Republican National econocommit. You had republicans high fiving over this 44 decision that let stand an piles court ruling putting about 4. 4 million undocumented immigrants, many of them latino at risk of deportati deportation. Are republicans celebrating too early. We heard the congressman say this spectacle, isnt that going to drive out latino turn out for democrats. Lets be clear. Theyre not high dpoofiving the deportation of individuals. Theyre high fiving the executive action taken by the president of the United States has been sustained. Upheld in terms of the lower court decision. I dont want to conflate this and republicans are saying were
going to deport them. Donald trump is. I understand what youre saying. Im also talking about other republicans as well. This is not mutually everybody on the same page here. We know that. Thats been articulated and defined to this point. How are they not on the same page . The republicans this congress refuse to pass Immigration Reform. Thats right. Ted cruz and marco rubio said they oppose Immigration Reform. They are on the same page with donald trump . Thats true. Were also talking about a president who is deported over a Million Immigrants a year over the last three or four. Republicans want that done. Thats right as did barack obama. What this means Going Forward is a challenge for gop. Im not going to sit here and pretend it isnt. We have a lot of work to do from the words of or nominee to the actions of some of our members in the United States senate as well as in the house of representatives that have not been honest brokers with Hispanic Community on this issue. If they wont do that and you have a ruling that says deportation of some of the parents, how do republicans take this issue into the general election in anything but high fiving this ruling and standing behind the build the wall nominee that they have all pledged to support . I think some republicans will do that and probably helps with some white voters in rust belt states. That may be a big battleground for donald trump. It does create huge problems for republicans in states like
arizona. Those are state where is the latino voters could make a big difference in a bad way for republicans. It may depend on the part of the country youre in and the proportion of the latino voters where republicans think this is great thing happening for them politically or not. You know john mccain said this could be the erase of his life. He said build the dang fence. Does he dare triple down on his opposition to any kind of Immigration Reform . I dont know the answer to that. Youll have to get john mccain to specifically address that. I dont know. I understand that he is in a tough race back at home. I dont know how hes done the political calculations to answer the charges that will come in
the light of this particularly decision. This goes back to my point earlier, joy, republicans have put themselves in a spot with hispanic voters. All of that has been gone, taken away from them. They have to rebuild this relationship in way that manges sense to latino voters to susans point recognizes that white voters who are up for the wall and all of that, they need those voters too. Very difficult spot. Thank you both. Coming up, on a busy night in politics, democrats end their historic sitin. Paul ryan wrote it off as a stunt but will it rally progressive voters and other americans who Want Congress to enact stricter gun laws. Polls are closed across
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the house and other republicans dismissing what you and other members did as a stunt. Stunt. Theres nothing that john lewis does thats a stunt. Hes a legendary individual. He doesnt have time for stunts. He has time for points and tactics so we can bring to the floor what 90 of americans know makes reasonable sense to do and try to get the individuals on the other side, the republicans in the house to bring a bill to the floor. One of the things that took place in the senate, they had at the bait and everybody could vote on whether up or down however they did. Thats what that was about to have a vote on two bills. A bipartisan bill. It was peter kings bill. Its not all the democrats for. Its a vote where 90 of republicans are also this support of it. It wasnt a stunt. It was a tactic that want sthoe
whats taking place ae ining pl. Your voice is the way it is because you havent been to sleep yet. If the idea was to stop all progress in the house and not let anything to happen, why did the democrats allow the to votes to happen overnight and why did you end it and allow the house to adjourn . You couldnt prevent those votes from happening. There was no way to keep that from happening. The dead of night, they wanted to get out of town. You want to talk about why not put the bills on the floor and what are their positions and
closing the gun show loophole and making sure if youre on the no fly list, you cant get buy a gun. We can have that debate. To the point the congressman is making, if republicans believe that they have the better side of the argument about keeping people who are on the terrorism watch list, allowing them to still go into a gun store and legally purchase a gun, if republicans believe they have the better side of the argume argument, why not debate . Why not allow a vote . They had the vote in the senate. In the house . Lets face it. They had the vote in the senate. Its easier to bring things to the floor. They didnt have the votes to pass it. Many democrats didnt support the measure which would have given the fbi three days to make sure someone on the terrorism watch list should be on the terrorism watch list. We have been reading about it all day and americans who were put on the terrorism watch list,
it can take up to eight years to get your name off of it. We shouldnt abridge someones constitutional right on the a whim. Its not have a sitibuster where the congressman knows the way you overturn the majority is get the voting for a discharge petition. First of all, matt thats very clever. Thank you. The speaker of house can bring a bill to the floor. You just made an argument on what you believe is the substance of having people on the terrorism watch list still be able to buy guns. Why not, in a body thats designed to deliberate and vote, why shouldnt have the house of representatives allow a debate an vote. Im talking about the house. Dont pivot to the senate. I have no problem voting on all these questions. Defending someones Constitutional Rights with the
clear letters make it clear we shouldnt abridge that right on some kind of willy nilly procedure. Why do American People want people suspected of being terrorists to not be able to buy firearms. The majority of americans disagree with you. I dont disagree with that. Republicans are making sure they can. Republicans dont want terrorists to get guns. Theyre making sure they can. They had a vote in the senate and the democrats didnt support. Putting it on the democrats. Hes throwing it on the democrats. Look at the vote today. Congressman, the vote is yours. You are right, joy. Were two separate bodies. The senate had a debate on the floor. You vote up or down. Then your constituents know where you stand. We have not had a vote on the house. Not saying we dont know who would win or lose but at least the constituents and theAmerican People will know where you stand. Its a major issue that were confronted with every day in the United States of america whether youre talking about the Mass Shootings or the other 33,000 deaths that have taken place in the United States of america. As horrible as it was in benghazi where we lost four americans, the republicans have spent hundreds of millions of dollars to try to figure out how we fix that. Here, we have 33,000 people that die and want to go a step to take a vote to make sure we save a life. Thats a relevant question. What policy, matt, do you support in order to try to reduce the 33,000 deaths a year by firearms. I would like to prevent all the deaths of those people in the orlando nightclub by making sure terrorists dont get weapons. How . It was the Obama Administration that took that off the terrorism watch list. No, he passed the background check and was able to get a gun and your party say she should be able to continue to do it. The fbi bungled it. Your job is to let me speak as well. The fact is the things youre advocating wouldnt have stopped what happened in orlando. Name one policy that you support that could pass the house and senate that your party would be willing to bring to the floor of the house. I got it. That would reduce the 33,000 gun deaths that include suicide, partner homicides, the Mass Shootings in places like sandy hook. Would you let me answer. We august to take the Mental Health records and be part of the background checks. Terrorists should not have weapons. Under the Obama Administration, we have seen two atrocities. Thats not a policy. Thats attacking administration. Your policy is attacking administration. Got it. Thank you very much congressmanGregory Meeks. Polls have closed and results are coming in from voters in britain as to whether they will remain in the European Union. What do their decisions mean for us in the u. S. . This is hardball, the place for politics. Heres whats happening. Baltimore Police Officer caesar go goodson has been acquitted. Gray died later. Residents in parts of illinois are cleaning up after four tornadoes tore throw the northern part of the state. A second body has been found in the search for a father and his three teenager children who went missing in florida. Back to hardball. Welcome back to hardball, its already friday in the United Kingdom and the polls
have been closed for over two hours. They will decide whether or not britain should remain part of the European Union. Proponents and opponents have waged a fierce campaign, which was temporarily halted last week after british lawmaker jo cox was murdered. Her assassination stunned the nation and sparked questions whether immigration and the refugee crisis have become a center piece of that campaign. The remain side has a slight lead. We need to wait until the votes are counted to know the outcome. President obama weighed in on the referendum and he warn