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MSNBCW Morning Joe August 14, 2019

Subject you touched and taking credit for the plant there that he was visiting, suggesting that his administration was the impetus behind it creating jobs for pennsylvania. The plant was given the go ahead in 2012, which was not only president barack obama, but president Barack Obamas first term. Right. Easily demonstrable. Were going to get more into the president s speech in pennsylvania in a moment. We want to begin with new information surrounding the jailhouse suicide of sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. The Justice Department official tells nbc news that a team of the bureau of prisons will be at the Metropolitan Correctional Center. Protocol, whenever there is a significant event at a detention facility calls for that move. An Administration Official tells nbc news the fbi and doj Inspector General which also are investigating the circumstances around epsteins death are being stymied by federal employees who are quote lawyering up. This comes after yesterdays news that the the warden at the federal lock up has been reassigned and two guards tasked with monitoring epstein have been placed on leave. We are learning more about one of the workers who was supposed to be guarding epstein at the time. The employee was not a fulltime corrections officer. Now a person familiar with the investigation tells nbc news that employee had been a corrections guard for seven years. He then accepted a different job with better hours but routinely took an overnight shift as a corrections officer to get overtime pay. A source would not say whether the employee was one of the two placed on administrative leave. The New York Times is reporting the two Staff Members guarding epsteins jail unit fell asleep and failed to check on him for about three hours, then falsified records to cover up that mistake. According to several Law Enforcement and prison officials with knowledge of the matter, two Law Enforcement officials telling nbc news, investigators are looking at whether either or both employees on duty responsible for checking on epstein were sleeping, they say no conclusion has been reached. A facility like this, a federal jail that theoretically is a maximum security kind of place with that kind of a high profile inmate that the two guards could fall asleep like something out of a bad movie. Fell asleep, and falsified records indicated that they had checked on him every half hour. Clearly they had not. One of the largest issues is the warden hi warden himself at that prison, how the warden allowed epstein to be in a cell by himself. Normally its protocol, anyone on suicide watch has a cell mate for various obvious logical reasons. You alert someone if someone tries to commit suicide in the cell with you. That cell mate was removed from the cell for inexplicable reasons yet to be explained, a week or ten days ago, and Jeffrey Epstein was alone to do the deed. Theres reporting there that the staff is so overworked that there wasnt enough time between shifts, the guards were so tired. Some would sleep in the cars at the facility instead of driving home and coming back. That accounts for them not accounting as often as they should have, and they went back and falsified the records. Its what mike is talking about that is leading rise to these conspiracy theories. If people are really tired and they do their job shoddily, another that you leave a prisoner alone and the cell mate was moved out the night before. Thats whats leading people to think this is just one coincidence too many. It looks like a decision was made consciously to put this prisoner in a position where he can do this knowing that he had already tried to do that. He had a cell mate that was transferred out. President trump is defending his decision to promote an online Conspiracy Theory tieing the clintons to the death of Jeffrey Epstein. I think they very highly respected, hes a big trump fan, and that wasnt from me, that was from him. Hes a man who has half a million followers, a lot of followers and hes respected. Do you really think the clintons are involved in Jeffrey Epsteins death . I have no idea. He was on his plane 27 times, and he said he was on the plane 4 times. When they checked the plane, bill clinton, who was on the plane about 27 or 28 times, so why did you say four times, and the question you have to ask is did bill clinton go to the island. Epstein had an island, it was not a good place, as i understand it, i was never there. Did bill clinton go to the island. Thats the question. You find that out, youre going to know a lot. Rick tyler promoted it once by retweeting to his 63 million followers on twitter and pouring gas on it. You have this suicide of a pedophile, a predator who bill clinton and donald trump were friends with. The president of the United States decides that, you know, his friend bill clinton was far worse than he was. I just went to a few parties with him, but he after all was on the plane 27 times, maybe 26 times, probably 27 times skpshl, and went to the island, you got to ask him about the island. Its just clear diversion narrow tactics, he thinks Jeffrey Epstein hurt him because theres a lot of pictures going around of them together. He wants to change the narrative that the story is going to be all about bill clinton because it cant be about him. Jonathan, he revels in this kind of thing, obviously, and plays to a certain audience. He likes talking about the bizarre parlor game of who killed Jeffrey Epstein. Some of it is a distraction. The clinton flight issue we have fact checked. The four times, long flights, different legs of different flights, thats where you get 27 or whatever it may be. The former president never set foot on the island. This is what the president loves to do. This is not a new phenomenon. He traffics in conspiracy theories. His entire political career is based on the back of one, birtherism, suggesting that the first africanamerican president of the United States was ineligible for the position. That its time and time again, he thought that ted cruzs father may have killed president kennedy. He suggested that Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia may have been murdered. What he also did you describeoe put it out there and never accepts responsibility. Its just a retweet. He forgets that his words, the president contains weight. Its always involved in how great it is. Its a retweet from a well respected guy. Hes got half a million followers and hes a big trump man. In terms of it might be naive to think this now, but is there anyone in the white house, not saying to the president , or anyone thinking, this is not great to be taking on a former president like this, even if theyre not saying it to donald trump, are there still people who feel queasy about the president standing up there and going after president clinton there. Ill refer to willies answers. The guardrails are gone. There is no one in the white house that are going to get in the way of any sort of tweet. They have given up. Hopelessness. Thats right. Yamiche, we have heard this time and again, im thinking about the Elijah Cummings week, the report inside the white house, staffers huddled in the room, are you going to tell him this is bad, and ultimately no one tells him. The white house functions, really, as a place where people are trying to constantly decide how to deal with the president s tweets. Its not a place where anyone is trying to alter the president s behavior. They realize 2 1 2 years into his president that thats just not the way you survive and keep your job. All that you have been talking to, always stress to me if you want to keep and be successful in the trump white house, you have to be constantly adjusting, constantly being willing to trip over yourself and contradict yourself as soon as the president comes out. Thats also at times why here white house aids, and the president tweeting another. Theres this idea that they are fearful of going on record a lot of times because they know that one tweet can completely up end whatever the white house message was in the middle of the day. I think the president in some ways has seen himself have success with the way hes done things and he doesnt at all feel as though theres any reason to change that. That goes back to what jonathan was saying, this idea that he started his political career and has been successful in doing that, and hasnt had to face consequences. And jonathan, again, back to the internals of the white house, theres a track record here of anyone who speaks back to the president. Anyone who says wait a minute, lets think about this, john kelly, general mattis, gone. They fall into favor, whether quickly or eventually. There hasnt been anyone consistently able to be a force to stand up to the president. His daughter and soninlaw, they rarely do it. There was at least an effort with chief kelly in particular when he came into the chief of staff role to try to rain the president in. For a little while, the president was into it. He began to chafe, threw off the shackles and his Mick Mulvaney said im not even going to try. Lets turn to hong kong, the airport quiet this morning, antigovernment protesters and riot police bracing for what comes next as the impact of the mass demonstrations in hong kong continue to ripple throughout the city and well beyond. Two Straight Days of chaos have crippled hong kongs airport. Video inside the terminal shows officers armed with batons and pepper spray trying to clear the crowd. Officers began running off demonstrators, wrestling them to the ground. Many tweeted many blame him in the u. S. For the problems in hong kong. The Chinese Government is moving troops to the border with hong kong, and yesterday he added this. The hong kong thing is very tough. Well see what happens, but im sure it will work out. I hope it works out for everybody, including china, by the way. I hope it works out for everybody. I think it will work out, and i hope it works out for liberty. I hope it works out for everybody including china. Lets bring nato supreme allied commander, retired commander, james, diplomacy analyst for msnbc news, and admiral, good to see you this morning. Ill give you a doover for what the president said yesterday, i hope it works out for everybody. What might have you said in that same position . I hope it works out for the truckloads of protesters that are moving around the city since he loves trucks so much. Im sort of identified as the nato europe guy, but i spent half my year in the pacific. I have been to hong kong too many times to count. I was there in 97 when it was handed over in the brits. I know the city extremely well. This one feels different to me. And lets just do the numbers for a second. There are 7 Million People living there. Protests have been up to the size of 2 million out of 7 million. Thats a day in the United States on a population adjusted basis where 150 million americans turn out to protest. This is kind of a big deal. The question we caught to be asking right now, what are the red lines where china is going to move in the Peoples Armed police, which by the way, says police, but is 1. 5 million soldiers. They are part of the Peoples Liberation army. I think the red lines are if the protests continue into september after School Starts and some of the students bleed out temporal red line, second red line violence, if you see a step up in violence where protesters start beating up Police Officers, they storm carrie lams office, red line. And thirdly, intent. If the protesters Start Talking very consciously about raising the level of autonomy, if they move beyond withdrawing this extradition law thats been the spark, watch for a red line there. I dont think this ones going to end well, to be honest with you. Admiral, we have seen the pictures of chinese troops and Armored Vehicles on the other side of the border across the bridge from hong kong in china. The president rather curiously perhaps tweeted about it yesterday saying intelligence told him this. I dont know if he had seen it on the television or whether he was giving away american intelligence information or even chinese intelligence information for that matter, but i imagine from beijings point of view, the site sight of chinese tanks rolling across the bridge is not something they particularly want to have broadcast across the world. Theres a reason for them to exercise restraint as much as they feel they can, isnt there . Absolutely, and let me just add to your argument which is a very good one, youre sort of viewing this through the prism of Tiananmen Square which we should but its also taiwan. The taiwanese, 25 Million People, a top 30 economy in the world, taiwan, if it stands by itself, is the big prize here. They are watching very closely whats happening in hong kong, so the chinese want to maintain order. They have to, theyre an authoritarian state. On the other hand, over the longterm, katty, they want to be able to gradually assimilate taiwan, scenes of tanks rolling into the hong kong is not going to help the argument. They have guardrails to stay between here. Lets hope that prevents real violence from breaking out. Rick tyler condemned the tactics yesterday saying the violent acts are outrageous have overstepped the bottom line. Terrorism as it discusses these protests setting up the kind of response it may need. Well, and this is what i wanted to ask admiral stravidis, how as we were discussing Tiananmen Square, it seems to me people in hong kong would have a fear the chinese feel like they cant afford to allow this to go, and is this all about the extradition law, and what could the United States be doing to calm the situation . Is there something the United States should be doing . Yeah, it begins with the extradition law, but my view, its moved beyond that are and thats why the chinese are in fact amassing these forces. I think it is entirely possible that at the end of the day china will say we have to maintain our authority because what they really fear is a contagion, an infection, in the big scheme of things is a not an overwhelming population, but if it affects beijing, a color revolution, thats what they fear. I dont think thats realistic but its a great concern for them. What should we be doing. Internationalize this, send signals to the chinese, there will be consequences if this turns into a massive Tiananmen Square, and that doesnt square with the president s narrative. He is trying desperately tota g a trade deal done for 2020. Lets hope cooler heads prevail. Add mermiral, the pacific th, this is your old neighborhood, you have hung around there a lot. Its more than what the president refers to as this hong kong thing, we just heard him say that. The hong kong thingme. It is taiwan, the lack of participation of the United States by the tpp, it swings south to india and kashmir. What we dont have and formally had was the voice and role of the United States diplomatic score in all of these diplomatic problems. Youre exactly right, mike, and lets face it, the essence of this is chinas one belt, one road strategy to create that swath of commerce that will run from china through the indian ocean to africa to central asia to europe. Thats their mercantile empire theyre trying to create. Hong kong is this difficult little pill that theyre going to have to swallow if thats going to work, and again, weve got your point and the one i made earlier, weve got to internationalize this, and think of it holistically, bring all of our ally, not just in southeast asia. Yamiche take us to the white house, we heard President Trump calling this the hong kong thing. He said well see what happens. I hope it works out for everybody, talking about hong kong and china. What his hesitance, what is his reticence, is it just about getting a trade deal with china. Sounds as though the president is telling us exactly what he means, which is that he is hesitant to really delve into this. He just postponed imposing new tariffs on china. The idea is that want to stock up on the holidays. There are farmers all over the country sounding the alarms and saying look, this trade war is costing us money. That is the base of the Republican Party and a lot of these different states. I think the president wants to try in some ways to be hesitant about talking about this issue because he is trying to hammer out something with china and realizes that america, at least for now is really being impacted heavily by the trade deal and trade talks. The president has sort of abdicated the traditional role of the office, western values, and its not just that democrats are doing it. Candidate warren and others have spoken, that americans should be siding with the protesters, kevin mccarthy, the republican leader, tweeted yesterday, we see you waving the american flag. We hear you singing our national an they will. We sta anthem, we stand with you. Conservatives usually fall in line with President Trump, criticizing him on this. Admiral james devridis. The fbi has arrested an ohio teenager for making online threats against the federal government and planned parenthood. According to a criminal complaint, when fbi agents raided the 18yearolds home, 15 rifles, 10 semiautomatic pistols and ammunition. Stacey abrams, the georgia democrat who gained National Attention during her unsuccessful gubernatorial bid

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