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MSNBCW Morning Joe October 21, 2020

I wouldnt i wouldnt yes, no. Could you repeat that question . Weve got to get the attorney general to act. The president or anybody else. Seems youd remember Something Like that and be able to tell us. Yeah, but im trying to grapple with the word suggest. Hes got to act fast. Hes got to appoint somebody. Theyve not asked me to open an investigation, but perhaps theyve suggested . This is major corruption and this has to be known about before the election. I dont know. I wouldnt say suggest. Hinted . I dont know. Inferred . You dont know. Okay. This has to be done early so the attorney general has to act. Senator harris now the democratic vicepresident ial nominee finally gets an answer to a question she asked the attorney general more than a year ago. You know better late than never. You know, willie, im surrounded, most of the people that i see every day are voting for donald trump. Most of the friends i grew up with are voting for donald trump. And its good talking to them and just saying, so why are you voting for this man . Well, hes a terrible guy, hes a horrible example for my kids, id never invite him over to the house, hes despicable. I hate him. I just hate him, but and then fill in the blank, aoc, or nancy pelosi or Bernie Sanders or regulations or tax cuts or 401 k s. And i say, so, well, we have right now a president of the United States who is demanding that his attorney general arrest the Vice President former Vice President of the United States, his chief political competitor. This is something that happens or happened in the former soviet union. This is something that happens still in russia. This is not what soft hotel ataurean looks like, this is what full blown awe tockcracy looks like, at least if you focus on the actions of the president of the United States. And youre telling me youre more concerned about nancy pelosi as outside of the white house than you are an autocrat inside of the white house . Its really theres the justifications from, again, my friends are extraordinary. But, this is just one of a hundred examples that we can cite that shows just this massive disconnect between what actions that the president s taking that are unamerican and the justification for voting for this man who is trying to arrest his political rivals open the e on the eaves ve of what he believes is a defeat. There are so many outrageous claims and so mr. Outrageous statements from the president that its hard to stop sometimes and look one in the eye before the next one comes. But as you say right now, the president of the United States less than two weeks of the election is calling for the attorney general of the United States to launch an investigation that i think somehow thinks will be resolved before election day in some way or at least just to muddy the waters before election day. And he goes farther than that in his rallies calling for joe bidentor lockbiden to be locked you get the sense he would throw joe biden in prison and be done with it. But this is a man who is desperate. This is a man look at the polls and calling for joe biden to be locked up, attacking a 60 minutes interviewer, attacking debate moderators, anything can he do to change the conversation from coronavirus, which is what will decide this election, perhaps, to his peril. Right. But im just wondering, mika, so if somebody says, well, you know, donald trump will probably be better for my 401 k than biden, even though moodys and others on wall street suggest thats not the case because well have stability in the white house, well have stability in the markets, well have stability in trade and negotiations, well have stability across the globe. But even if they make that argument, so, you know, the f r 401 k went down maybe 20 . Are they saying that a man thats trying to arrest his political opponent in america two weeks before an election, are they saying that maybe theyd lose 25 percent of their 401 k under biden but 20 under trump and that 5 is worth throwing away american democracy on a guy who claims to have unlimited powers because of article two . A guy that questions the federal judiciarys independence and a guy who is trying the best he can to have his political opponent arrested two weeks before a free election. And let me remind you all, my friends and loved ones, in the United States of america. Not in belarus, not in hungary, not in russia, in the United States of america. What is worth that . You know, ive heard also, mika, this other excuse. The press is liberal. So, okay, so youre voting for a guy whos trying to arrest his political opponent because you dont like what don lem mon say on cnn . You want to appoint a man who says he has unlimited powers and can do whatever he wants to do and calls for the arrests of journalists who question him like jeff mason and also, well, like me repeatedly . Youre going to vote for him because Lawrence Odonnell makes you mad . Because you dont like New York Times . Its, again, it really there is no logic to it. This is you desperately trying to justify something that you know cant really rationally be justified. I havent even gotten to the racism, to the muslim registry, to the president call hispanics breeders. I havent even gotten to that. Havent even gotten to charlottesville, to the president telling White Supremacists to, quote, stand by. To the president talking about assassinating his political rivals with Second Amendment solutions to stop them from appointing judges to the Supreme Court. Havent even gotten through four or five years of violent rhetoric. I havent even talked about the president of the United States saying that he would not guarantee, repeatedly in debates, the peaceful transfer of power. He did eventually after the fifth or sixth time. Not really. But, yeah. Its always sort of, oh, yeah, sure, sure, ill guarantee that but what about antifa . What about this . What about that . So i havent even talked about all of those things. And you add it up, this is a man and you know this, would be an autocrat if he could. Would be a dictator if he could. You know that. Youve said that to me. Many of you have said you know that if he loses he cant leave america because our government would be afraid that he would sell state secrets. Our most classified secrets to other countries. Some of you tell me you think hes going to end up in jail. But youre going to vote for him anyway. You know, im tom hanks in big. I dont get it. I dont get it. Youre my best friends, youre my Family Members, and youre going to believe garbage that you read on facebook. They dont even care that you still he accused you of murder and tried to get you investigated. You still are telling me, even though ive told you repeatedly its a lie and sent you evidence, youre still saying you may not take a vaccine next year because Anthony Fauci has a financial stake in it. Thats just a lie. And i love you, but you have to be really, really stupid or willfully ignorant if you still believe that lie. Because its not the truth. You just send facebook posts to each other that exacerbate these lies. Facebook. Its really its something. But, mika this is what madeline all bright warned about. Someone like President Trump can turn this country into a different place. This is a challenge for democracy. Again, im not talking about people over there. No. Im talking about friends and loved ones, again, who who we got to would give their lives for me, for my family and yet theyre its something, again, im reminded you know willie and i often on friday nights when, you know, youre out with your bowling league, mika, willie and i often get together and you and christina are bowling and well sit and well watch a river run through it and well weep at the end when tom says that sometimes we have to completely love those we dont completely understand. And thats what i work on every day now. Especially for the next two weeks. Okay. Willie, what part of rougher r river run through tell them the part you like the most. When brad pitt falls asleep by the river, every time that gets me. Every time. Along with joe, willie and me, we have White House Reporter for the associated press, Jonathan Lemire. Nbc news capitol hill correspondent kasie hunt back with us. She never sleeps. Hold on a second. Jonathan lemire, of course we dont let you go to our river runs through it viewing parties. You know what happened the last time you tried to i know. Seriously, seriously, we dont want to get into that. Okay. Lets not. No. Shh. Shh. But, lemire, the red sox had a great game last night. Mookie was looking amazing. Joe kelly closed down the rays. As one of bostons best games since 2018. First all of, i have an air tight nondisclosure agreement about the time i gried with ytr you and willie, so lets move away from that. Yes, mookie betts proved he is one of the most electrifying and best players in basketball. The cornerstone of a franchise, one that a team should lock up for a decade or more would seem to be the right strategy. That did not happen for the Boston Red Sox and mookie betts is showing off his incredible talents for the Los Angeles Dodgers instead. Last night he ran the bases like a demon. He hit a home run and made another great play in the field. He did it with infectious enthusiasm. He is, perhaps, the most popular and one of the top two or three best players in baseball. And good for the dodgers and why cant we get players like that . Well, you know, the thing is, though, in all fairness, willie, theres no way the red sox could have seen this young kids talents coming. Who could how could they have predicted that mookie would be this good, willie . Its almost like giving away your derek jeter, the cornerstone franchise, the guy that the kids could live up to. Not something most franchises would do. It is fun for me to listen to red sox turn into yankee fans. Youre two years removed from a world series and moaning about the fact that you havent won one in so long. Welcome to our life, its been 20 years. All right. Enough of this conversation. Now kacsie is talking about sta trek. Now it is whatever. Again. Dont ever confuse the two again. Theyre the same. No, theyre not the same. Oh, no. No. Theyre weird. Oh, my god. Okay. Not the same. President trump held a rally in erie, pennsylvania, yesterday during which he kept joking that he wished it didnt have to be in erie, pennsylvania. Holy cow. We win pennsylvania we win the whole thing. Before the plague came in i had it made. I wasnt coming to erie. I mean, i have to be honest. Theres no way i was coming. I didnt have to. I would have called you and said hey, erie, if you have a chance get out and vote. We had this thing won. Thats interesting. So he doesnt want to be there. Thank you, cleveland, we dont want to be here. Jonathan lemire, the president has been oan edge over the last couple days. One of the angriest performances on a tarmac than yesterday he storms off the set with leslie stahl, tearing off his mic, attacking leslie stahl. Goes to erie and says thank you, erie, i dont want to be here. His wife stays back stays back at the white house, doesnt come supposedly a nagging cough. Whats going on in the land of donald j. Trump . President trump didnt want to be in erie last night, apparently. But did i. I was there with him for that rally which was shorter than most. Hes been clocked at under an hour and it was pretty chilly last night. But youre right. The president here last night did deliver what is supposed to be his Closing Argument with two weeks to go to the election. He said that the choice is between the trump economic recovery or if you elect joe biden and his socialist policies and tax cuts and so on, it will slow down the recovery. He even put it as adepression d thats what his advisers have wanted him to say for weeks. Unfortunately for them he tends to step on it with the side shows. Yes, we had a few more of them yesterday. A day after his attacks with dr. Fauci, he stormed out of the 60 minutes interviewer and atracked leslie stahl on twitter. Threatened to release a videotape, whatever that means of the interview. Perhaps the white house has made its own recording, that is not certain. We have pressed as to what that means. But it does reflect his private mood, joe. As you say, on monday on the tarmac out west he angrily lanced into reporters. Aides say hes growing anxiously concerned that this is running away from him. Hes running out of time. Of course declares he is still going to win. Weve seen some Public Comments that hes acknowledge ed could lose. He muses that how colose to joe biden who privately he feels is someone who is shot and has tlot. It would be an embarrassment if he lost to him. The other day he thought he might have to leave the country if he did. And he is seen here, he was in pennsylvania last night, the state that matters perhaps most of all in the Electoral College map. Hes going to be there a lot in the next two. But theres a frustration that the trajectory of the race is unchanged. It is about the pandemic and his response and these side shows that hes trying 10 to engage i day after day arent working. And pandemic relief, apparently Mitch Mcconnell might have a different point of view about when people should get it. The president loves to put checks in peoples hands, almost so transactional it hurts. But where does pandemic relief stand for people who have been waiting for some sort of help . The reality is if he wanted to put checks with peoples names on them before the election he have you had done it a couple weeks ago instead of sending a tweet that blew up all of the negotiations contrary to his own plool intereson politic ahead of the election. Its just not clear that were going to get anything before election day here. I mean, the dynamics are complicated, mnuchin, the administration, and nancy pelosi seem to want to get something done. They say that theyre still at the table. But for Mitch Mcconnell, the politics of it are complicated and he let it be known yesterday that he told his members in a private meeting that he doesnt hes telling the white house dont do it before election day. And, you know, joe knows this well, the politics can change on a dime if if this really is the kind of landslide election that some of the polls suggest it could be, not just for the white house, but also across the senate map. Which, you know, if you look and dig into those numbers, it looks like its worse for Senate Republicans than potentially for the president. Thats going to change things in congress. And, you know, Mitch Mcconnell running specially an Opposition Party means, i think it could mean that its less likely people get the help that they that they need. And i think theres some real questions, you know, for americans, for their families, but our economy more broadly. The Federal Reserve a lot of people have raised concerns about the lack of action from congress and the implications that that can have. So, you know, a lot of dire of dire consequences here. But, you know, the erie moment, it just made me think back to i mean, first of all, what political candidate goes somewhere and then says i dont want to be here . You go to ask for peoples votes and say dint want to have to come ask for your vote . Its mind boggling. And i also keep thinking back to the image because we were talking about star wars of the death star. Remember Brad Parscale called the Trump Campaign the death star. It does blow up at the end of the move scli is ie. When youve got a president ial candidate going and saying i dont want to be here, it seems thats whats happening to this campaign in the final few weeks. Definitely important to watch the movie until the end before you post your gif to the death star to see what happens there. This ties in back to your initial comments on the show this morning about the economy where you have donald trump saying that joe biden, if he is elected, will turn america into a socialist hell hole or however he puts it. The problem is its joe biden and not Bernie Sanders and a lot of voters are not buying that argument. As you pointed out, their big economic firms, Financial Firms like Goldman Sachs saying actually if joe bidens elected, if theres a blue wave and they take over the senate, thats better for the economy than donald trump being reelected because well get sim foou stimulus. Corporate taxes will go up, but there will be stimulus in the economy. So when he goes out there and trying to paint a picture of joe biden famously moderate in the last 50 years, its been some socialist in the mold of Bernie Sanders or aoc. Voters have said again and again that they just dont buy that caricature of joe biden. And, by the way, if mika had interjected when kasie was talking about the death star and said captain kirk blew it up, i would have walked off the set. [ laughter ] but jonathan is correct, though. If you look at all of the numbers and all of the crosstabs in every single poll, the only issue where donald trump is competitive and in most of the polls hes ahead is the economy. Who can handle the economy better, donald trump or joe biden . If donald trump had stayed on message this entire year, which i know is impossible to do. But lets just say if a candidate in Donald Trumps position had stayed on message and talked about two things, one, the economy, how well it went before the coronavirus, how hes going to build it back again and then in places where the message sells, like state of florida fighting against socialism, which works, obviously, very well with cuban americans, eimmigrants from nicara

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