To a second ballot. Its a corrupt system. Youre basically buying these people. Youre basically saying, delegate, listen. Were going to send you to maralago on a boeing 757. Now the bad news for cruz, hes on a little bit of a roll right now but donald trump could be on the verge of a much bigger one. One that could wipe out all the progress cruz has made and could put trump on course to clinch the nomination. It starts tomorrow in new york. I am going to show you the numbers the Trump Campaign is salivating over in just a minute. Also ahead, does trump have a secret weapon in the next big primary to vote after new york . Well talk to a delegate from pennsylvania who has a lot more power than most delegates. Youll want to see that. Also, Bernie Sanders gets his meeting with the pope, but hell need a real hail mary to pull out a win in new york tomorrow. Those are the public polls but the bottom line is lets look at the real poll tomorrow. Generally speaking, a poll that has underestimated how we do in elections. Record crowds in brooklyn, new yorks Prospect Park over the weekend to hear sanders. Still a doubledigit gap for sanders. One day to go now until new york. That is still ahead. Rounding out our agenda, a republican establishment reality check. What our new nbc news wall street journal poll says that could puncture one of the great hopes of the stop Trump Movement. Thats our most important number of the day. What it is and what it means in a little bit. We start with our top story. Ted cruz with another win over the weekend at a convention in wyoming taking all 14 delegates up for grabs at the Republican State Convention in casper on saturday. Cruz wasting no time attacking trump there. He says compromising his values. Donald trump has been supporting liberal democratic politicians for 40 years. I have no experience with that. Donald continued, ted, when it comes to the Supreme Court and religious liberty, you have to learn to compromise and learn to cut deals with the democrats and learn to go along to get along. Let me be very clear to the men and women of wyoming. I will not compromise away your religious liberty. With big northeast contests starting with new york tomorrow and a bunch more the week after, is trump about to overshadow cruz in a big way . Lets take a look at these numbers. This is what the Trump Campaign thinks it could be getting over the next week or two. This is where the race stands right now. Cruz again with that success in wyoming, the success in colorado last week. The win in wisconsin. A little bit of a roll for cruz. Hes closed the gap. Within 200 delegates of donald trump right now. Thats the good news for cruz. Now the bad news. This is what Donald Trumps people think could happen tomorrow and then next week. They think first tomorrow, new york votes. Those 95 delegates, theres a chance donald trump could get 85 or more of them. Theres a chance he could get all 95 of them tomorrow. Thats because of the way they give out the delegates here. A big trump win, if hes breaking 50 in every Congressional District. Hes getting all 95 of those delegates. Then a week later, a week after tomorrow, polls show trump leading in pennsylvania, maryland. Polls show trump leading there. Delaware, winner take all state with 16 delegates. Rhode island, if you believe in the demographics of this race, this could be one of his best states. Between new york tomorrow and midatlantic and New England States that vote a week later. We showed you that lead cut within 200. That delegate lead for donald trump by eight days from now could be over 400. He could be sitting, donald trump could, near 950 delegates at the end of this month. And then the rest of the country to go beyond the end of this month and june 7th. If donald trump is around 950 eight days from now, he would have to get the rest of those delegates to clear 1,237. Very doable for trump. The news has been good for ted cruz but it could get very good for donald trump tomorrow and then a week from tomorrow. That is the backdrop for whats about to kick off tomorrow in new york. Speaking of this, on the same subject, Trumps Campaign manager Corey Lewandowski is optimistic about what tomorrow and the week after could bring in terms of a delegate haul for his candidate. By the end of this month and the next two weeks, donald trump will add an additional 200 delegates to his total. Lun sdewandowski has seen hie diminish in the campaign. Check this out. A trump source telling politico, quote, were trying to set expectations at 180. 180 delegates for the rest of this month and he just blew through that. Thats an amateur. Thats an unnamed source speaking about Corey Lewandowski. Katy tur is joining me from new york at trump tower. This has been hard to figure out. You had Corey Lewandowski was the face of this campaign for a long time. He had all the legal troubles. Trump brought in this Convention Manager paul manafort. The role of lewandowski right now. Whats your sense of it . Well, theres two competing groups within the campaign from what i am told by sources. As you said theres the Corey Lewandowski camp. Hes been on with donald trump since the beginning. Ive heard even before the legal matter, the criminal matter down in florida, before that was hashed and then resolved there was infighting in the campaign and a feeling among those closest to donald trump that he did not have the experience or temperament to continue with the candidate through the nomination and into a general election successfully. So theres now a contingent there now, paul manafort, rick wiley, a number of others who are more experienced operatives. People who have worked on campaigns before and have relationships with washington. And right now im told they are the ones trying to clean up this campaign. Theyre trying to not make any unnecessary mistakes from now until the convention. They want to get as many delegates as they can in new york and the states you just mentioned. Because of that, they are taking more control. They have a closer ear to the candidate. And lewandowski is becoming more of a body man, an advance man. Thats what im hearing from my sources. We will continue to see how this unfolds. So far Corey Lewandowski is back on the trail. He was in Staten Island when getting the endorsement of the new york policeman veterans. Katy tur outside trump tower in new york. Thanks for that. Want to turn to congressman Chris Collins from western new york, a donald trump supporter. He wrote an op ed called the case for trump. Steve, nice to be with you today. Thank you. Let me ask you this. Your state, you know it well. 95 delegates up for grabs tomorrow. Donald trump, barring an act of god, is probably going to win the state tomorrow. How many delegates is he going to get . Well, youve heard the campaign say 85. Quite frankly i think thats at the low end. Donald trumps popularity is truly amazing. Weve got that 50 rule. If he in a couple of Congressional Districts comes in with 48 , then someone else could get a couple more delegates, although it would likely be john kasich, not ted cruz. Its going to be a really big day tomorrow. In terms of falling short. If he falls short of getting all 95, any particular pockets, regions of the state where he may struggle . Definitely not up near buffalo or any part of upstate new york. Upstate new york really outside the five boroughs, west chester and long island is so angry about the loss of jobs, the devastation of new york over the last 30plus years that they are really turning out for a nontraditional candidate, someone like donald trump who is hitting all the right notes when it comes to jobs, china and mexico. No, its not upstate new york. I think youd have to look to a couple of Congressional Districts, perhaps long island or some of the five boroughs. But i believe donald trump could win all 95, but lets say its 85. Thats still, to use Donald Trumps term, huge victory tomorrow for donald trump. The other headline out of the weekend. Ted cruz did really well at the state convention in wyoming. Also these conventions in states around the country. Some of them states where donald trump won the primary. But then theres this whole process for picking delegates where the Cruz Campaign has been excelling. I know your candidate has been saying and your campaign has been saying how unfair you feel the process is. But these are the rules of the process and ted cruzs campaign it seems at least from afar is much better positioned organizationally to take advantage of them. Just in terms of the organizational issue is that something that concerns you . Is the Trump Campaign organized enough whether its against ted cruz now or potentially Hillary Clinton in the fall in a situation like this . Steve, no question we need to win this on the first ballot. I think most of us recognize that. Ted cruz has been at this a long time. Give him credit. When it comes to inside baseball, all of the political maneuvering behind the scenes, theres no one better than ted cruz on the inside baseball. But thats frankly what the voters are rejecting. They dont want someone that excels at the political inside baseball game. They want a true outsider that is donald trump. Yes, when it comes to the caucuses and some of the other maneuvering, ted cruz has a massive organization. Thats where he put his effort. Donald trump has tapped into the everyday grassroots support which frankly is more important when it comes to voter turnout and come general election. But we need to win this on the first ballot and thats why tomorrow, starting with 85 or more delegates, and then moving in just eight days from now to pick up another 90, 100 delegates is exactly the momentum donald trump needs to get to the 1,237. When you say ted cruz as the insider, a lot of people may say this is the guy who went on the senate floor last year and breached a corum in a way thquoy that he said mcconnell lied to him. He pushed for the Government Shutdown a few years ago. The Ted Cruz Lindsey Graham was joking about the prospective murder of ted cruz. Ted cruz to hear him described as an insider, a lot of people may say, are you sure youre talking about ted cruz . Im not calling him an establishment republican. Theres a difference between being an establishment republican versus someone who knows the ins and outs and inside way to maneuver around whether its Convention Delegates or, in fact, the rules of the senate floor. Im not suggesting ted cruz is an establishment republican, but what i am saying is he is well schooled and very good at what ma nipulating the rules to his advantage within the rules but, no, im calling that the inside baseball piece. Dont mistake that. Im not ever suggesting hes a traditional establishment republican. Thats why he really has no support whatsoever in washington. All right, Chris Collins, congressman from new york, supporter of donald trump. Thanks, steve. A little further down the calendar, new york comes tomorrow and then we get right into the midatlantic and new england contests. On progreapril 26th, that may b most important story in this race that no one is talking about. Has to do with pennsylvania. Pennsylvania will vote on april 26th. In that state you can see it on your screen. You see those two numbers in pennsylvania. There are two different kinds of delegates at stake in pennsylvania. One of them is easy. 17. Those go to whoever wins the statewide primary. Then theres the real jackpot, that bigger number, the 54. Those are unbound delegates. That means theyll be able to vote for whoever they want to vote for at the national convention. They are free agents. Many of those 54 will be chosen in that primary next week. More than 100 men and women have have their names on the primary ballot in pennsylvania. 54 of them will become unbound delegates to the national convention. They could be the difference in whether donald trump hits thats magic number of 1,237 or if the stop Trump Movement succeeds in derailing him. Joining me is one of those prospective unbound delegates from harrisburg, pennsylvania. Andrew, thanks for taking a few minutes. This is one of those elements of minutia that in any other year wouldnt matter. In a year like this, its huge. If you go to this convention as one of these 54 unbound delegates, you and that bloc from pennsylvania could be the difference for whether donald trump gets the nomination or not. How do you approach this . Do you have a candidate right now that you know youre going to support . You know, steve, you are right. This is unique for pennsylvania in one sense. Our primary hasnt been this meaningful for several decades now. Looking ahead, i got in this rai race, not for any one president ial campaign or for any party but for the voters. Ill stay committed to at least on the first ballot and likely on subsequent ballots ill vote for the candidate that wins the popular vote of the fourth Congressional District, which is the district for which im running for delegate. Thats a key point. All of the polling coming out of pennsylvania suggests donald trump is going to win the state. Likely to win the state and by a wide margin. If what you are saying holds, thats potentially a vote for donald trump. If trump wins your district by the margin were seeing now. Is this something you expect the other unbound delegates to do to honor whatever the voters say in the primary next week . Theres a good mix of candidates across the ballot. There are onethird of the candidates are pledged for senator cruz. Onethird are pledged for donald trump. I dont believe we have any pledged at this point for john kasich. And all the remaining candidates are either pledged to support the candidate who wins the popular vote of their Congressional District or we have some candidates who have pledged to support the candidate who wins the popular vote of the entire commonwealth of pennsylvania. Im just trying to think practically speaking, if a candidate, and the polls are suggesting it would be donald trump. If a candidate wins a district or the state by a wide margin, it would be tough for an unbound delegate to say, thats one thing but im going to vote for a different candidate, wouldnt it . It would be really tough. I think if you look at whats happened in some parts of the country. You were just talking about that in some different areas with the delegate games going on if you will. I think elections have to matter. Conventions matter. And the voters are absolutely engaged in this delegate Selection Process in pennsylvania. And for them to be this engaged to make their selections both for delegate and president ial nominee in eight days on april 26th, and then for a delegate to defy, if you will, the will of the voters, thats would be problematic and i dont think thats what the intention of pennsylvanias delegate process is. Ballpark figure, of the 54 unbound delegates. If this is what happens in pennsylvania and trump wins by 20, 25 points, how many of those 54 do you think he gets . I do think some of the polls ive been looking at show it a little closer, but nonetheless with trump ahead. How many does he get . Thats difficult. I havent done a full analysis of all the delegate slates statewide. I imagine if he wins statewide and knowing the areas in pennsylvania where hell perform well, i think hell clear at least twothirds of those delegates of those 54. Thats a potentially huge differencemaker. Andrew ritter, thanks for the time. Thanks, steve. Coming up Bernie Sanders seems to have a renewed confidence after what his Campaign Says was a recordshattering rally over the weekend here in new york. This while Hillary Clintons motorcade is showered with dollar bills as she attends a highdollar fundraiser at the home of actor George Clooney. I think we shouldve taken a left at the river. Tarzan know where tarzan go tarzan does not know where tarzan go. Hey, excuse me, do you know where the waterfall is . Waterfall . No, me tarzan, king of jungle. 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