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MSNBCW The Ed Show January 12, 2015

We start tonight with news here at home. Central commands twitter and youtube accounts were hacked. How does that make you feel . The group described themselves as the cyber caliphate. The group warned of cyber jihad. They also posted Contact Information for a number of military officers. Pentagon Officials Say the twitter and youtube accounts were not classified and none of the Contact Information was classified. One official said this is clearlyclear ly clearly embarrassing but not a security threat. The hacking comes as president obama is pushing congress to act on cyber security. Earlier today, the president was out pushing a series of new bills to protect americans from hackers. Today im focusing on how we can better protect American Consumers from Identity Theft and ensure our privacy, including for our children at school. And then tomorrow at the department of homeland security, ill focus on how we can work with the private sector to better defend ourselves against cyberattacks. When these cyber criminals start racking up charges on your card it can destroy your credit rating. It can turn your life upside down. It may take you months to get your finances back in order, so this is a direct threat to the Economic Security of American Families and we have to stop it. If were going to be connected, then we need to be protected. So how can the republicans say no to that . Can we find some Common Ground here . One of the bills would notify consume r consumers within a month that their information has been compromised in a data breach. There was a massive march against terrorism in paris. Some are criticizing the United States for not sending any high ranking u. S. Officials to the rally. We responded to that today. Some have asked whether or not the United States should have sent someone with a higher profile than the ambassador to france. And i think it is fair to say we should have sent someone with a higher profile to be there. French authorities have set up a comprehensive counterterrorism strategy in the wake of the attacks. Thousands of soldiers and Police Officers will be stationed in sensitive sites around france. They will also reenforce electronic surveillance and look into schools and prisons that have a reputation of jihadist recruitment. New reports show Hayat Boumeddiene has crossed into syria from turkey. Meanwhile back in america, republicans are using the french terror attacks to trash president obama. In his typical fashion, Lindsey Graham came after president obama. Graham blamed the president for the rise of radical islam. Our strategy to combat radical islam is failing. President obamas world view is i dont want to be george bush. Radical islam has risen in the last four years on his watch. Allowed al qaeda in iraq to rise again to become isil. Not supporting the Free Syrian Army three or four years ago when it would matter. Taking kae i put it at the feet of our president. The South Carolina president went on to use fear and warn of attacks here at home. I have never been more worried about being hit at home because of the president s world view and strategy toward radical islam is failing. Bin laden may be dead but al qaeda is not decimated. Republicans will use anything to bring down president obama. Its really a time isnt it when democrats, republicans, and the Global Community should be pulling together to fight terrorism . Isnt anything unify us anymore . Republicans are trying to scare and divide americans for political gain. They have the power. Now do something about it. Republicans are shameless when it comes to scoring political points over terrorism. Looks like we havent really gotten much better in the last 15 years, have we . Get your cell phones out. I want to know what you think. Will republicans block president obamas cybersecurity bills . You can always leave a comment at our blog. Well bring you the results later on in the show. Im joined by the editor of the nation and the editor of the atlantic. Great to have both of you with us. Isnt anything going to bring us together . If the republicans are so concerned that this is such a new and definite threat to the people, wheres the unity . There is no unity. I worry that the lessons from paris are being lost not only on Lindsey Graham who speaks untruths and fear mongers, but it was an attack on free speech and the intolerance of radical islam. It was also the failure of europe and paris to integrate those with islamic backgrounds and faiths. The i think unity was shattered. We spoke earlier about 9 11. There was unity. But george w. Bushs dick cheneys occupation torture, one of the paris terrorists was radicalized by george w. Bushs war. These are a blight on americas reputation. We are not going to get wisdom from people like Lindsey Graham or john mccain or some of the democrats who have bought into a war against terrorism, which is making the United States and west less secure. Not more secure. What about this hacking of the youtube and twitter accounts . I was surprised the United States government had a twitter account. We have lots of them actually. I dont know what all of that was about, but how serious is this . My first reaction is what else are they going to do. This is an ongoing story. It is interesting that the pentagon, which has been hacked previously in journalism, we have seen things like the Syrian Electronic Army hack major journals of opinion like the New York Times for its commentary on syria. Hacking in this new world are now a part of the terrain. It is interesting and ironic that the president was out talk talking about protecting all of this on the day that centcom was hacked and the twitter was going to pursue its rights when getting requests for personal information. What is liberty and privacy in the middle of the world in which you have outside assaults on it but also governments doing things, including our own, that are invading our liberty and privacy . Its an interesting new terrain and we dont have it all figured out. It is a new terrain, but were also dealing with an old terrain. No one is against targeted surveillance. Edward snowden, who i interviewed for four hours in moscow last october, is for legal, targeted surveillance. These intelligence agencies already have broad powers. French media reports that nigerian warned of these attacks. So you think that this is as much the United States intelligence failure as it is everyone else . I think the United States and the west. You saw the rush. It reminds me of 9 11 when dick cheney and his cohort had plans on the shelves ready to go trigged by that terrorist attack to erode the liberties. We can be free and secure but i think that these intelligence agencies in britain have been salivating to expand their powers. When you say expand your powers, take us down that road. Im thinking of bulk data collection. Theres so much coming into these intelligence agencies. We saw this with the boston marathon. They werent able to make connections. They have to find ways to coordinate rather than expand first. There should be investigation. Steve, dont we have turf wars in the Intel Community . We have tons of turf wars in the intelligence community. When you talk about what more can be done when you look at the various times that the director of National Intelligence was testifying bit by bit when forced about what we can do then make the assumption and jump ahead we are probably already doing it without authorization. Theyre taking bulk metadata. When you begin looking at video and other forms of Material Information that travels as bits as well all of that is technically possible and yet not authorized or permitted under our legal system. I imagine somewhere in the system is that theres a lot more capacity out there that this could grow into. It is important to establish rules of the road and a discussion about where our privacy and liberty exists within this new world. Any excuses used to ratchet up the Governments Authority to take more and more thats why admire twitter for throwing up a red flag. Were not going to play along. Were going to under our First Amendment rights challenge the u. S. Government. We have the right to express and say when the National Security requests are being made of us. Right now, there are not enough people paying attention to the erosion of this. When you see things in paris and the horrors that have unfolded there or in ottawa or australia, theres a lot of data out there, but they cant all be used as an excuse. Theres another school of thought here. One of force. This is senator Lindsey Graham saying what the remedy is. Here it is. We need to get a ground component to complement the air campaign. There is no mythical arab army in the making. Were going to need an international force, at least 10,000 americans, to provide special forces to take on isil. Hes proposing what, iraq all over again . Hes proposing endless war. What it does to nations is it saps liberties and securities. People in this country have more wisdom than the elite. They dont have the stomach for going into other countries were not occupying. The backlash will be even more severe. There are ways to combat terrorism. We have lost an opportunity since 9 11 when policing to put it on a war footing. If they want to propose this they should go fight. Im not kidding. I mean these people have no measure they dont have any accountability. Steve, your response to the senator. A few years ago, we used to do things with u. S. Senators. They would pick movies they enjoyed. Lindsey graham had his night and he picked a film called seven days in may. He gave a very impassioned speech who are calling for endless war and demagoguery. Go watch the movie that you said was your favorite because you have forgotten your lessons there. Appreciate your time so much. Thank you. Remember to answer tonights question there at the bottom of the screen. Like us on facebook and thank you for that. Coming up, the power of the pen. The right wing reaction to the president s veto threats. John ellis bush versus willard mitt romney. Rapid Response Panel coming up. Stay with us. Prevent the urge to smoke all day. I want this time to be my last time. Thats why i choose nicoderm cq. Startupny. Its working for new york state. 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And todays top trender, veto threat. I havent used the veto pen very often since ive been in office. Now i suspect there are going to be some times where i have to pull that pen out. President obama draws the line as republicans vote on key issues. Hopefully, we can persuade him to improve the Nations Health care laws. The president is going to see the keystone xl pipeline on his desk. If this bill passes this congress the president wouldnt sign it either. We may have to attach it to other legislation. Hes not going to determine what we do. Joined tonight by congressman tim ryan and peter of oregon. I think they got something going on tonight. Well get to that in just a moment. Gentlemen, great to have you with us. The president ial veto, is this the only thing thats going to hold back the republican agenda . Im pleased that the president has inked up his veto pen. Hes going to need it. They are trotting out some of the same tired stuff for corporate america. Lets unreform wall street, go back to the good ole days. Lets take away health care from 8 million americans. Remember they have said repeal replace. They have never told us what replace is. What about these 8 Million People . Now the state department is going to go through a process. They want to preempt that process. They want to take away states rights individual property rights, and give a Canadian Corporation the right to transport oil across america without paying into the Oil Spill Liability trust fund and give a Foreign Corporation the right to take private property from americans. Congressman ryan were talking about the president holding the line here because you guys the only thing you have right now is the filibuster over on the senate side. What else is going to stop what was just described . Well i think thats the fire wall. So youre counting on the president. He has to show up big time then right . We need him. We need him. I think hes probably going to have to throw one or two out there early to set the tone kind of like in 94. We had the government shutdown. Im not saying we need a shutdown. But at some point in 94, bill clinton had to step up and say no. Whatever the issue is, the president has to be decisive and say no. That veto threat means a lot more when youre negotiating these other issues, but i think they are going to test him, whether it is keystone or something else, and he has to step up to bat, set the tone and i think we can assume more of a posture of negotiations and facilitating some movement with some legislation. What negotiations trouble you . Whats on the horizon that you think that the Progressive Movement has to be concerned about . I didnt think dodd frank was strong nuchenough. To allow wall street to gamble to gamble with taxpayer insured money number two is trade promotion authority, which the president is lobbying for and the republicans might give him, the democrats wouldnt. Let him secretly negotiate a trade deal and plop it down in in front of congress. This just in. President obama just issued a veto threat against house legislation that would delay part of the vochler rule. Your thought on that rule. If hes going to veto that, thats taking a stand against wall street, isnt it . It was some of the most exotic of these derivatives that tanked our economy. You cant use taxpayer insured deposits to gamble. By delaying the rule we are seeing these firms thats one part of the bill and the rule would say you have to move your proprietary training out of the insured part of the bank. There are two changes in that bill. Now obamacare, what bothers me here is there are some democrats that are in favor of relinquishing the medical device tax. Where do you stand on that . Well if youre going to get rid of it you better find the revenue that can be consistent somewhere else. I dont think it matters to a lot of us where the money necessarily comes from but that the money is going to be there and it is going to be consistent. And i think the president , again, is the fire wall to make sure they dont start picking apart the Affordable Care act. I just dont think we need to go down that road. Ultimate ultimately, thats what they try to do. Well it is just that one little thing. Over time that all adds up and youre dismantling the entire system. Going back to the rule, i think it is important with Something Like that where the president can go back now after some of us i know pete has and i have been critical of him not being firm enough. He can begin to reframe. Hey, we were the ones who dug ourselves out of the hole. We were the ones who set us back on track. We were the ones to stabilize. Were not going back to a casino system where were going to tank the economy again. He can i think, go back with this veto and reframe the entire position of the Democratic Party and why we cant go back there and why he needs to be a strong, decisive leader.

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