That fish as it was in downtown madison, wisconsin, where a large number of people were out in the cold not fishing, but rather protesting against wisconsin Governor Scott walker. It was minus 13 or something with the windchill when this big protest happened against scott walker this weekend in madison, specifically about what he is proposing to do against Public University necessary wisconsin. The governors Budget Proposal for that state this year includes a 300 million cut from the university of wisconsins system. 300 million. It sort of sounds like a big, round number that doesnt necessarily mean anything on its face. To put it in perspective, the chancellor of the university of wisconsin at madison, which is the flagship campus for that system, and also i should say one of the finest public universities anywhere in the country or in the world, the chancellor of the madison campus says that if she just outright eliminates the school of nursing and the law school and the Business School and the Pharmacy School and the school of veterinary medicine if she outright eliminates all of those schools from the madison campus that still would not be enough to make up for what scott walker wants to cut from that campus. Wow. At the university of wisconsin in milwaukee which is an urban campus in that system their share of the scott walker cuts they say would be equivalent to totally eliminating the school of Public Health and the school of information studies and the school of social welfare and the whole engineering school. That would get you close to what scott walker wants to cut from that campus. The university of wisconsin is a bikon for that whole part of the country in terms of higher education. One of the things wisconsin is known for nationwide is the outstanding quality of their public higher education. Its their claim to fame nationwide. And their governor is proposing essentially to dismantle that which is an amazing thing in that state and which got a lot of people out on valentines day on a saturday at minus 13 degrees windchill to not ice fish, but instead, to go protest what he wants to do. But you know what . Come on lets be realistic. Scott walker is running for president. And so this is the kind of thing hes going to be doing for the next year or so. He is, in fact increasingly seen as a top tier president ial candidate on the republican side. I think that is in part because conservatives nationwide, they may love the idea of destroying the university of wisconsin. I dont know. I think its probably driven more by the fact that a lot of the other wouldbe top tier candidates who are supposed to be competing with scott walker right now, those other wouldbe top tier candidates are having trouble right out of the gate, new Jersey Governor Chris Christie has had a bad few weeks, including a bad overseas trip to london that got him a lot of bad headlines. Former supporters in new jersey, including the Campaign Manager from the first time he ran for governor seem to be siding more with jeb bush than with him. Chris christies poll numbers at home in new jersey have absolutely tanked. Conservative media buzz used to have Chris Christie at the top of the list of connected republicans, best positioned to win the republican president ial nomination, but not right now. Now hes basically considered to be more in the marching order of guys like Mike Huckabee or rand paul. Rand paul is now past the phase where he got to enjoy being the object of beltway media fascination. Hes now in the part where he is trying to present himself as a credible candidate for president. Its not going great both because he doesnt seem to have any major donor support, which is important at this stage, but also because he keeps making a lot of unforced errors. Like, for example, senator paul saying multiple times at a recent appearance that he has a degree in biology. Rand paul does not have a degree in the biology. The amazing thing about this is nobody said to him at this event, senator paul do you have a degree in biology . He just volunteered that. I have a degree in biology. And its not true. Now, of course hes very angry that what hes pointing out is no true. Nobody would have brought it up had he not said it. Rand paul what are you doing . Why would you volunteer that if its not true about yourself . You are under no pressure to prove your biology days. So a lot of the people who look like they might be top tier candidates are fizzling already. So the man to beat might very well be scott walker. Its kind of hard to believe, but honestly the conservative media loves him right now. One of the things they love him for is his proposal to absolutely gut the Flagship University system that his state is known for. But beyond scott walker, you know, if you do look at the stuff that makes it possible to put together a winning bid for the nomination if you look at connections and big donor money and early commitments and who has the real establishment on their side the closest thing the Republican Party has this year to an inevitable candidate, to an inevitable nominee is of course, jeb bush. And now, faced with the ageold dilemma, pets or meat, which is it, pets or meat . We now know thanks to a brand new scoop in the New York Times, that jeb bush, the closest thing the Republican Party has to an inevitable candidate this year, jeb bush when it comes to pets or meat, hes a meat man. Hi. I saw the sign down on the street that said you were selling rabbits and bunnies here. Yeah. For sale . You want pets or meat . Pets or meat meaning i can buy the bunnies to to have as a pet or i can buy them for and meat. Theyre already dressed and clean. I butcher the babies when the babies reach four or five months old. Well thats good. Because, you see, if you butcher the older ones theyre stewers, theyre fought fryers. And a lot of poem like fryers better than they do the stewers. That makes sense. So i keep my own personal stock. When think babies get 4 or 5 months old, and i have 15 20 babies, you have to get rid of them as some way. If you dont sell them as pets you have to get rid of them as meat. Pets or meat. Thats from roger and me obviously, Michael Moore being amazing. But we now now thanks to a brand new scoop in todays New York Times, that on that age old question of pets or meat when it comes to rabbit jeb bush is a meat man. And we know that because of this the letter on bright yellow paper that was given to jeb bush in 1985 by the Vice President of marketing for the american commercial rabbit association, quote, i am developing a Business Plan for the marketing of domestic rabbit meat. I would value your assistance in establishing contact with a potential usda liaison. This prn apparently met jeb bush at a bush family political fundraiser in 1985. Hand delivered this letter to him saying hey, help me out with my rabbit meat plan. Thank to the New York Times digging that letter out of the george h. W. Bush president ial archives we now know that jeb bush hooked the rabbit meat lady up. Look. Look at what he said. Dear Senior Adviser to the Vice President of the United States, who happens to be my dad, tom, can you get me a name at usda to help out the rabbit meat lady . Sends the note. And, you know when the son of the Vice President of the United States wants a rabbit meat contact in the federal government, well thats what he gets. Within less than a week. Look, this is the letter from the office of the Vice President on ooufs of the Vice President stationary. Seeking a federal reseveral for the rabbit meat lady. Good thing she went to a fundraiser, right inspect here is a followup log. See the handwritten notation on the right . The notation there says rabbit meat usda. That was the subject of the conversation. And here is the response a representative from the federal government calling the rabbit meat lady directly to make sure she has the contact she needs and to make sure she knows jeb bush took care of her. So the New York Times did this deep dive into obviously not just the rabbit meat thing, but all the other evidence there is of how jep jeb bush over the course of his lifetime, over the course of his political career has made very good use of his family corrections. And it is remarkable, the things large and small you can get done when you are the grandson of a senator, the son of a Vice President , the son of a president , the brother of another president. Its one thing to have sort of an amorphous idea of what that privilege and power must mean for a person. Its another thing to see the granular thank you note details of it. And to see that he really thanks to his family connections, is used to having a ton of pull thanks to his brother and grandfather and his dad and all the other bushes and their political power and contacts. One of the weirder political losses of the george h. W. Bush administration, so jebs dad anticipates president ial administration. One of the weirder political knocks they took when i was president was the u. S. Senate deciding not once but twice, to reject someone who bush supported to be the u. S. Attorney in the state of florida. The nominee is a guy who got admonished by the Justice Department for the way he ran his office. The attorney general of the United States had to wade into this guys office and take him personally off a high profile prosecution because he was not seen as being experienced enough or temperamentally suited enough to handle a high profile prosecution. So the attorney general of the United States had to step in and take him off it. The fbi background on this guy recounted a whole bunch of previous allegations of Domestic Violence against him. For all of those reasons and others besides, the senate rejected this nomination for this guy to be u. S. Attorney. Rejected it once. But still, for some reason poppy bush nominated him again and did him the insult of rejecting his nominee for the second straight time. What was behind the commitment for this guy . Jeb bush in florida had been advocating for that guys nomination forcibly. Advocating to his father when he was Vice President advocating to his father when he was president , including letters to the top staffers about this fom nation. Jeb bush went so far when his father was president also went so far at one point to make a recommendation to his father as to who should get the next open seat on the Supreme Court of the United States. He writes a letter to his dad, encloses the guys resume says quote, many people know him in miami, in case thats an important qualification for the Supreme Court. But jeb bush is writing at this point with this recommendation as the president s son, writing to his dads top advisers about who ought to be on the Supreme Court. Should the opportunity arise, i would hope you would give consideration to peter t. Fayes promotion to the u. S. Supreme court. Peter t. Faye did not get nominated by poppy bush to the Supreme Court despite his sons request to the can tear. Since then every president has two. President clinton chose ruth Bader Ginsburg. President obama so far has chosen Sonia Sotomayor and alaina kagan. Supreme Court Nominations are among the most important things that any president does ever. And not every iteration of the Supreme Court hears brown versus board of education or bush v. Gore for that matter or roev. Wade. Not every iteration of the court hears cases that become household names and that change the world drastically and forever. But the scattered showers of the United States has breath taking power. On a mereadeyrad of issues. Were awaiting cases that might elimination the whole of obamacare in one fell swoop. Millions of people losing their Health Insurance at once they could do that. Were awaiting another case that could legalize samesex marriage nationwide or not. Were waiting another case that could ban the way that states kill their prisoners now by lethal injection. Thats all in the next few months. The Supreme Court is really important. And a president s choices around who they would put on the Supreme Court are among the most important criteria we have when it comes to choosing a president. For example, webb that jeb bush would have liked a guy named peter t. Faye for the Supreme Court. Okay. But our Supreme Court right now has on its plate an unusually large number of really really confidential cases all of which are going to get heard in the next few weeks and decided in the next few months. And because of that, the opportunity to hear from one of the justices of the Supreme Court, the opportunity to talk with one of the justices about that work and how they are approaching it and how they feel about politics right now, the opportunity to do that that is a big deal and a very rare opportunity. And so without further ado i hear by declare you should say exactly where you are for a second. Ruth Bader Ginsburg is the interview right here, next. Youre on to the next thing. Clinically proven neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair. It targets fine lines and wrinkles with the fastest retinol formula available. Youll see younger looking skin in just one week. One week . This ones a keeper. Rapid wrinkle repair. And for dark spots rapid tone repair. From neutrogena®. Man sternly seriously . Where do you think youre going . Mr. Mucus to work, with you. Its taco tuesday. Man youre not coming. I took mucinex to help get rid of my mucusy congestion. 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Jae just ahead, our exclusive interview with ruth Bader Ginsburg the 81yearold justice on her health her legacy on womens rights on abortion rights, on president obama and her relationship with him and ruth Bader Ginsburg on tattoos. Turns out she has strong opinions on tattoos. Our interview with Justice Ginsburg is next, not to bybe missed. April 2009 president obama had been in office for a little more than three months. He was just starting to get his feet wet as a brand new president when all of a sudden it became red alert time inside the white house. News leaked to npr reporter nina totemberg that security Justice David constitutore or suitor was about to retire. He was only 69 years old. But npr got this scoop that he was leaving the court and barack obama, just three months into being president barack obama, hes faced with one of those this is not a drill moments. Think about that for a second. Youre president , youve only been president for three months but you alone get to nominate the next member of the United StatesSupreme Court who will then serve for life. A few weeks after that the brand new president , barack obama, announced his choice would be season na sewonia sotomayor. She described getting that call i had my cell phone in my right hand and i had my left hand over my chest trying to calm my beating heart, literally. The president got on the phone and said to me judge, i would like to announce you as me selection to be the next associate justice of the Supreme Court. I caught my breath and started to cry and said thank you, mr. President. Sonia sotomayor was president obamas first Supreme Court appointment. But not his last. About a year later when Supreme CourtJustice John Paul stevens announced his retirement president obama nominated former solicitor general alain na kagan. Some president s dont get one Supreme Court appointment during their time in office. 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