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Welcome back to our special coverage on this big breaking news night. Today the Supreme Court heard the arguments in the case that would take donald trump off the 2024 ballot. The justices seem skeptical for the colorado report decision to remove. Is our colleague Laura Jarrett with more. It just doesnt seem like a steak. All the justices, forced to grapple with mr. Trumps alleged bid but, by pointing to his actions on january six. And the provision in the 14th Amendment. That those who engaged in insurrection or rebellion for Holding Public office again. The attack was a sitting president of the United States to disrupt the peaceful transfer of president ial power. All nine justices, both conservative and liberal, appearing to bristle at the colorados argument. The question that you have to confront, is why a single state should decide who gets to be president of the United States. That seems quite extraordinary, doesnt it . Chief justice, john roberts later raising the idea of the 14th Amendment being used as a political weapon by democrats and republicans alike. It will come down to just a handful of states that are going to decide the president ial election. Thats a pretty daunting consequence. Mr. Trumps lawyer, arguing, congress not state should decide whos eligible for the presidency. And that the former president did not engage in insurrection. This was a riot. It was not an insurrection. It was shameful, violent, all those things. But it did not qualify as insurrection. Lets bring in john allen, International Politics reporter for nbc news, katie benner, pulitzer prizewinning reporter for the New York Times and senior vice and former u. S. When it came to keeping trump off the spell it . I certainly wasnt, surprised that the Conservative Justice were skeptical of the arguments raised by colorado voters, challenging trump. I was really surprised that the liberal justices, especially Ketanji Brown jackson jumped on the attorney arguing, against trump to say, you, know i think that youve got the history. Wrong i think youve got the tax. Wrong and really embracing one of the most farreaching legal theories that trumps attorney had put forth to the court. Justice jackson gets a lot of flak for the right for allegedly being tobias. Or too far for the left. But i think today she really should. She is an independent minded jurist, and of all the justices, nobody else pushed harder to show, or at least to clean that the 14th Amendment disqualification clause doesnt even apply to the president. That was her belief, and she really stuck to her guns. So, yeah it was a surprising day. Going in i thought 63, maybe 7 to 4. Trump now i think 81 or maybe even nine. All katie, how about you . Is this what you were expecting . You know, its interesting. I like to refer to the point that we just heard about Ketanji Brown jackson. So its true that she really did reiterate this argument that trumps lawyer and made about whether the president counted under the 14th Amendment. Whether he was an officer who could be taken off of the ballot. And i think this also speaks not just with the justices were thinking about the performance, essentially of the lawyer, mr. Mary who was representing the colorado voters. I would say that we all heard a lot of our arguments. I dont know if this is the most confident argument ive ever heard. And it feels like there were tons, all the Justices Including and kagan, who he has quick for. Almost frustrated that they werent able to get straight answers out of. In that he had several points the climb to answer the question that had been asked, wanting to answer Something Else and bring up a previous point, or a point that he wanted to get to more and even that exchange with jackson, it was hard to tell whether or not it was something you should truly believe, or she felt that this was not a great argument because if you listen to the Oral Argument with the trump lawyer with mr. Mitchell it was clear that Amy Coney Barrett and others were saying this is a ridiculous arm document. Of course its an officer under the constitution. You can also interpret to mean that she was just trying to get out of him, a potent argument. Should shut down this thing, we were just skeptical of. You just, heard many many of the justices again across the spectrum, be skeptical of the argument put forth by trumps lawyer that it doesnt because the president isnt explicitly named. And she couldnt even get that out of him i, mean luckily these decisions are not made or arguments, theyre made on the fast, theyre made on the briefing, theyre made on the research that people do. But it was a really interesting performance, i, think by the lawyer representing colorado. Joyce, now that this hearing is basically out of the way how could that affect the other case that the Supreme Court could be facing, just days from now. The one for absolute immunity. So, steph, i was the appellate chief in my office before i was the United States attorney and i will tell you that appellate lawyers are a little bit of a breed of hard. They live in rarefied air, especially when youre talking about people who are arguing the Supreme Court and these cases, these lawyers really do deal in law and they dont deal in politics. And the common place of life. At least not in the normal situation. But this situation is far from normal, that certainly not lost on any of these justices that theyre being drawn into a political environment that they do not want to be in. Particularly, with all the drama surrounding the court over the last, year all of the ethics challenges, the concern today about Justice Thomas participating in this case despite his wifes involvement on Donald Trumps behalf, following the 2020 election. So, lots of reasons for the justices to minimize their involvement in these cases, involving donald trump. They certainly do not want to be seen as deciding the outcome of the 2024 election in any way. John, lets talk about takeaways and misinformation. Because, your average american was not listening to the two hours of audio today. But, if you were, you would not have heard any debate, discussion, argument or decision over whether or not donald trump incited an insurrection. Everything was about the language of the amendment, what job in government is considered an officer of past cases. But assuming, and i know im assuming that the justices side with donald trump, isnt there the risk that the right or it least the Trump Machine would use this to say, see, he had nothing to do with the insurrection . Move on yes, absolutely that risk exists stephanie. And, you are right. The justices danced around the hope that with the exception of danced around the idea of whether this was actually an insurrection. And so yes, if donald trump wins this case, i absolutely expect him to go out and be seen. What my lawyer said is a riot, not an insurrection. So certainly didnt participate in an insurrection. I didnt and insurrection. Youre gonna hear that from, him 100 . That doesnt mean that the justices need to find in favor of colorado in this, and as some of the other guests of said. I think it would be pretty surprising, at this point, if they did. Mark, its good it was only audio. Because we do not want to watch any of those justices dance. But, to johns point, its exactly what they did. They avoided the question of whether donald trump engaged in insurrection. Lies that . Well, i think thats obviously the most controversial and political question embedded in this entire. Case, and there are so many other median legal issues. Does this calls cover. The president , is himself executing in states . Making it one of his little courtroom campaign stops. And, the justices are very cognitive of how all of this place on the news, into the nation. They knew that we would be here talking about their audio, examining and scrutinizing their questions. And, they didnt want the coverage to be about whether this was an insurrection. They wanted to look like nine lawyers, doing kind of dry lawyer stuff. And, to that extent, i think they did succeed. And, i do think that they were on, generally, good behavior. There wasnt the kind of grouchiest or anger that sometimes flashes through the justices and major arguments like this. You, know they all wanted to get to the bottom of the case. And, they did end up having consensus towards the. And trump will twist that into something that it isnt, ruling for trump does not mean he didnt engage an insurrection. It just means that the theories put forth by colorado voters here didnt cut it at the court. Joyce, there has been a lot of talk lately, about the quality. The poor quality of Donald Trumps lawyers. But we did not hear that today. What did you think . No, he was capably represented today. And, something that i noticed, and i appreciated was that this was not a lawyer who was pandering to an audience of one. This was a lawyer who conceded arguments, when he didnt have a strong position. He behaved in the way that we assume lawyers would behave when they argue in front of the Supreme Court. There is nothing more marketable about that. Its only remarkable in the context of donald trump, who does not respect or have any regard for the rule of law. And he seems to insist that his lawyers, by and large, stand with him and not with their obligation to the court. So, in that sense, at least, this was a refreshing change of events. Katie, we often say its so important that the country is able to hear the actual arguments, as opposed to just getting the final decisions. Do you believe thats the case in this instance because when you actually listen to this one, its highly technical. And, your average person, who just wants to tune in, they dont care what they think theyre going to. You, know its highly technical, but most Legal Proceedings will be highly technical in many. Points even, though for Something Like the cross by documents case, it feels very straightforward. Did he or did he not keep something he shouldnt have. Even in that case, theyll be a lot of technical jargon. What is good about being here with the or argument, especially in this instance is as reported, in a year, or more when we had serious questions about the credibility of the court, et cetera, to hear the justices ask their question, the field that they are putting forth good faith questions, that they are listening with respect nomad or what theyre aology, no matter what their belief, to hear Something Like, Amy Coney Barrett was extremely hard on trumps lawyer mitchell. There were times when they can barely musket. She was not buying. It and you really see the law. You hear the law at work. It is not a partisan exercise. It really wasnt today. It was an exercise, getting to the bottom with serious questions. We can debate whether or not they were trying to get to the bottom of the right questions but for the public to hear that i think its really, really healthy. John, last night you said to me how very treacherous this was that it could backfire on democrat. This idea that trying to remove donald trump from the ballot could be seen as highly political. Do you think there are any democrats, tonight, that the court system seems skeptical that colorado should do this . Because at the end of the, day they want to see donald trump beaten at the ballot box. No excuses. They dont want to give him a side door. Absolutely, that is a significant with the democrats ive talked, with a look to the officials whether in washington d. C. , or the states. They definitely want to see donald trump defeated at the ballot box. And some of them, would like to see him and accountable for what they see as criminal activity, with regards to january six. So thats a different case. And i think that there was a significant ceremony that this will have a Backlash Effect if trumps kept off the ballot, in certain states. And you, know the problem, and we saw about this a little bit last night, potentially for backlashes youve got the save colorado main not swing states that might keep him off the ballot. And the reaction in the swing states, its a handful of, states maybe six of them that will decide this election, the reaction from independents from people who dont pay a ton of attention, necessarily to the system. Loose republicans, are loose democrats could be to rally around trump seeing some unfairness in the situation. Joyce, before i let you guys go, i want to go to something that we were talking about in our last segment. President biden, and his report. I just want to draw a comparison. Because in the Trump University lawsuit, donald trump sided, memory lapses, 59 times. And in the modern report, different variations of i dont remember, 30 times. But, even beyond President Biden and President Trump, isnt that what most people say when theyre questioned by authorities, i dont know, i dont remember . You often see some variation of that. It was very frustrating for me as a prosecutor to learn how many people have really bad memories, by the time they sat down in my office to talk to, me and a couple of fbi agents. And, look, sometimes our memories do dim with the passage of time. Events that happened in the couple of years ago may not standout fresh in the case of joe biden some of these documents have been in his home for many years that we were talking about events that transpired for them five years ago. So even someone young and crisp might not have a fresh recollection. But the standard advice, that the lawyers give their clients is dont try to manufacture a memory. If you dont remember, dont be afraid to say that you dont remember. In some cases, that translates to a builtin defense. Where you have a witness, who just consistently says that they dont remember, in order to avoid any possible liability. Joyce, thank you so much. Katie, mark, john thank you also much. Of all of that news, there are delegates up for grabs. And in the state of nevada, and the u. S. Virgin islands in the race for the republican president ial nomination. Its like, oh my gosh, more news. Donald trump is basically running unopposed in tonights nevada caucus. And nbc news projects he hasnt even won. My dear friend and colleague, joins us live from vegas tonight. Ron, Everybody Else in vegas is gearing up for the super bowl, go into parties, and here you are. What are we doing stuff . [laughter] how is it going in vegas tonight, ron . I feel like the conversations were going to have over the course of the, year where folks are having fun with their evening. And im standing at an event like this. Not that this isnt fun, stephanie. Let me be clear here, donald trump is going to be taking the stage or in a few minutes, to celebrate his victory here in the nevada caucus. He also won the four delegates, one of the u. S. Virgin islands and after tonight he would have secured the 0. 8 of the total delegates here so far in available. Here and for donald trump he ran against nobody in this race. It was to lose. He won, all 26 delegates. Of course, none of the above On Tuesday Night Beat nikki haley and she took part in the state primary i am told that donald trump did have dinner with he will be moving on to South Carolina, well have a rally on saturday. Just outside of myrtle beach. He will then be holding an event later in the week, in South Carolina and for donald trump, here, steph, you know its hard. He uses this nature. Its an opportunity. Not only to defend himself legally, but also point to joe biden, who he said is prepared to take on here over the course of the nine months of the general election. What we will see, nikki haley, obviously she wasnt on the ballot. Whats next for her . Excuse, me not ball it to choose nikki haley in this caucus, my mistake. Yes, so, the gop, they wanted to have a caucus. Despite a primary putting effect run by the state, the state government. , and the nevada gop, who are close allies are donald trump of course there gop chairman Michael Macdonnell he is one of the fake electors who was indicted in the state of nevada and the executive nevada of the gop they flew just last month to go meet with donald trump. But where maralago and they called the caucus sixth of all but rigged in favor of donald trump. And so candidates here are representing the option, to take part in the caucus run by the party or the primary read by the state. All by doing that though come to the party run caucus. Nikki haley thought it should be a