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MSNBCW Weekends With Alex Witt February 16, 2019

Of california are vowing to take him to court. What did she know . Why Sarah Sanders had to answer questions from the special counsel. The Deputy Attorney general was concerned about the president , about his capacity and about his intent at that point in time. Wait. Theres more. New parts of the interview with the former acting deputy of the fbi. He talks about the former explosive interview with the 25th amendment. And alexandria ocasiocortez declares victory over amazon. Some of her democrats colleagues are her strongest critics. Ill talk with one of them about the now defunct deal. Developing this hour. Another shutdown averted, but now a constitutional clash is brewing. Mounting legal challenges are expected after the president declared a National Emergency to bypass congress and build his border wall. The president now in maralago. Hours after his announcement, the first lawsuit against his declaration was filed. The American Civil Liberties union will sue in the next few days. Californias governor is telling the Trump Administration well see you in court. California is prepared to call this what this is. A theater of the absurd. California prepared to remind the American People this is a manufactured crisis. The president himself anticipated the legal challenges. We will have a National Emergency and we will then be sued and we will possibly get a bad ruling and well get another bad ruling and well end up in the Supreme Court. And hopefully well get a fair shake and well win in the Supreme Court. Just like the ban. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer calling this a power grab. And representative alexandria ocasiocortez will introduce a resolution to condemn the National Emergency. That will trigger the senate vote to force a position. The house judiciary chief is asking for those involved in the declaration to testify in the hearing, quote, in the coming days. Who advised them . What is the advice . Do they consider certain things . I dont expect to get answers. The white house is very arrogant. We will pass a disapproval in the house. I anticipate a majority of vote in both houses. Now in a tough position, republicans facing reelection. These Senate Republicans warned the president against declaring an emergency. Plus, conservative ann coulter wrote a book in trump we trust now has this assessment of the president. So forget the fact that he is digging his own grave. This is just look, the only National Emergency is our president is an idiot. We have Michael Viqueira joining us from the white house. I saw that look on your face as we listen to anns claim. Okay. Clearly, mike, this is far from over. Reporter right. Alex, lets start with the congressional end. You saw the resolutions that are planned to be introduced by alexandria ocasiocortez and Congress Member castro and a host of others. There will be others who want to get on this train. The question is if they pass the house of representatives and the senate, the former is a probability. The latter is notwithstanding all of the statements from republican senators. Always an iffy proposition when the Senate Leader Mitch Mcconnell is four square behind the president. He has a lot of leeway of what gets on the floor and what doesnt get on the floor. That is an iffy proposition. Lets say it passes the house and senate, the dissolution and forcing him to backtrack on the National Emergency. The president , given everything we have seen and heard in the last 24 hours will veto it and there is not a margin sufficient to override the veto. It is important that Congress Puts its foot down and kpexecut the power of the purse. The president called an emergency and then said he department have to do it. A lot of people are seizing on that. He had blame to go around. Check out this exchange with our own kelly o in the rose garden yesterday. I will tell you, im very disappointed at certain people. Particularly one for not having pushed this faster. Are you referring to speaker ryan . Lets not talk about it. Okay. What difference does it make. They should have pushed it faster and harder. They didnt. Reporter so the president already the white house releasing a photo from the oval office yesterday. Meeting with the commanding general of the army corps of g nee engineers. Planning the wall. There are people along the border trying to fight this as well. The claims of Eminent Domain coming from the government. Another question. How much is the president going to tap . 8 billion. He has access to in military Construction Funds and drug intervention funds and asset forfeit funds over the years. A lot of questions still up in the air. Meanwhile, during the emergency, the president last night landed 7 20 eastern time at his resort in maralago, florida. Where he stays this holiday weekend. Michael viqueira, thank you. Joining me now is laura barron lopez. Good to see you on saturday morning. Look, kevin, the president realizes from are a lot of legal challenges ahead of t. You heard him in the singsong tone attacking them. Politically speaking, is it worth it for him if he loses in court . He thinks it is. I was sitting next to kelly in the rose garden. He was essentially saying bring it on. He is fully prepared to take this to the Supreme Court. You know, he feels that he mentioned in his exchange with kelly that he has, you know, he is getting advice from the likes of sean hannity and others on the issue of immigration. You know, i think democrats are also fully prepared. I would make one point. This was their plan all along. Even before the state of the union address. I remember before the state of the union saying to you that Senior Administration officials truly wanted a twofer all along. They wanted money from congress and pursue a legal route when they wanted. Listen, to your point, even further the Washington Post reports in 2018 a year ago the president was trying to find a way to fund the wall without congress. He knew congress would not give him the billions he wanted. According to the paper, the white house could not move the necessary billions it will and trump declares a National Emergency. The risk of available you afails high. Laura, the president did it anyway. Is this nothing but a political move . It has to do with the reelection in 2020. This was his number one Campaign Promise during the 2016 election. We knew he was not going to let up. It is something he continually hears about from his base as well as the commentators he tunes in to. He has been pushing it relentlessly. Of course with the victory of democrats in the house in 2018, it became a more unlikely scenario that this was going to be able to move through congress. Again, if he wanted it, this is an argument democrats made time and time again, why didnt House Republicans and Senate Republicans when they controlled all of government push this through . Democrats, you know, have not changed position. They have said from the beginning, they would not give any money for the wall. Right. What you cite Senate Republicans, i want to know, kevin, what is up with Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell . He spent weeks warning against the National Emergency. Telling the president we dont want you to go down this road. Now he issued this statement. He is declaring support and pointing blame at democrats. What happened . This is fascinating. Mitch mcconnell supporting President Trump, he is someone who is truly perhaps the best chess player in washington, d. C. He knows that from forget about the policy for a second. From the political standpoint, he know there is as there are r up for reelection in 2020 who do not want to have to vote on whether or not they agree with the constitutionality of President Trumps decision to declare a National Emergency. Kevin, was it also the timing . It came on the heels of the Government Shutdown . Yes. It was a disaster for republicans. The president said i own this thing. Everyone said great. This is your fault. Absolutely. Play this forward. Lets say out of the house of representatives, they were to advance a joint resolution from aoc. That ends up on the senate. Republicans have to have an up or down vote on whether or not they support the declaration of the National Emergency. That is why you have seen republicans like marco rubio and senator Lindsey Graham make comments to laura and i in the hallway that they are skeptical because of the constitutionality of the issue. Switching gears now, guys. I want to play part of what Andrew Andrew mccabe said in the int interview that airs tomorrow night. Here it is. The discussion of the 25th amendment was simply rod raised the issue and discussed it with me in the context of thinking about how many other cabinet officials might support such an effort. Rosenstein was actually openly talking about whether there was a majority of the cabinet to vote to remove the president . Thats correct. Counting votes or possible votes. So cbs released this clip after mccabe spokesperson, melissa schwartz, said his words were taken out of context. Why, laura, do you think mccabe is going on the record with this interview . We know he has a book. Is this about that or is there something more to it . I think it is remarkable we have Andrew Mccabe confirming a report that came out last year in which we found out that rosenstein had at least in passing mentioned the 25th amendment and the possibility that amendment gives to remove the president of the United States. And we know that mccabe is on this book tour and he is revealing different pieces and confirming things that we had maybe heard about earlier. So it is remarkable we have someone who is confirming what we heard about last year. Whether or not there were series of korvconversations. Mccabe said it was one conversation. Not a sericertif serious effort. How does this move into the deep state plot to take down the president . I think you are seeing that via social media commentary from conservatives. Hold up. Timeout. The fact that the 25th amendment was whipped inside the administration by Rod Rosenstein and Andrew Mccabe is that is i have no words. Thats unprecedented. I recall the interview i had with omarosa. 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Reporter police say a 15year employee. Gary martin, in the process of being terminated, opened fire at the Henry Pratt Company plant in aurora. Killing five coworkers and shooting another and wounding five officers responding to the scene. All officers suffered nonlife threatening injuries. I saw hundreds of officers ready to assist. This response by Law Enforcement by state and local agencies did not surprise me. It still overwhelms me. We still lost lives today. It is not overstated the people did not deserve this. Reporter the chief said the first officers arriving were immediately fired upon. Authorities say police shot and killed martin. His home surrounded by Law Enforcement late into the evening. The workplace mass shooting prompted a flurry of lockdowns at neighbors businesses and schools. One student stayed home sick, but too close for comfort. I was in my room and heard gunshots. I got on the floor and peeked through the window. A cop car pulled up. Traumatizing. You rushed toward danger. Reporter the illinois governor offered condolences to affected families and praised first responders. There is no word for evil that robs our neighbors of our hopes and dreams. Reporter as the investigation unfolds, now asking a familiar question around america. Why us . And investigators want to find out how much planning this particular shooting may have put into the workplace shooting yesterday. One of the immediate questions, al e alex, is how could so many officers be struck by gunfire . The chief said the shooter gary martin was waiting for first responders. He started shooting from a window. The first officers were through the door and three struck by gunfi gunfire. For an hour and 35 minutes, the building was under steiege. The shooter barricading himself and engaged him and killed him. What another tragic scene in the american town with another mass shooting. Alex. Thank you, ron mott, from aurora, illinois. Newsweek marks a year since the valentines day shooting at stoneman high school. We take a look at the past 20 years of shootings. Joining me now is newsweeks chief washington correspondent. Bill, can you put in context with me over the shooting with ron mott . Put that in contacts wiext of t 20 years of Mass Shootings . It is another example of what is unfortunately reality in the country. One, i think, as our piece this week points out, has begun to change the politics of gun rights and gun safety as it were. Unfortunately, every time one of the episodes happens, you are almost at a loss for words as to how to react to it. I do think that in reporting the story that we did, there is a real sense and it was evidenced in the elections last november that the country is very tired of it or significant portion of the country is very tired of these things. Therefore, the politics of it have gun to change. Finally. 20 years of this. Extraordinary. I know that the magazine and your article takes a look at parkland and how that tragedy is really what sparked this movement as you say how it is changing now. Is the urgency still there . That we all felt in the immediate days after that shooting in shoo shooti shooting . Do you think that will change laws . I think it can and it may. Not necessarily immediately. I think one of the things that was striking about the aftermath of parkland and it continues to this day was the outpouring of outrage and Political Energy among the young. Among high school and college kids. Frankly. That was part of the reason why any number of candidates who ran explicitly on gun violence prevention last november did very well. Remember sandy hook . That was the one back in 2012 that just shattered hearts across the country. And bithe bill work

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