Me to talk about equal pay and whether new abortion laws could backfire on the gop. We begin with the battle for 2020, certainly a crowded day on the campaign trail. Got 11 candidates, hold something to dozen events across several different states. Joe biden will be keeping up momentum as the frontrunner of this day, leading the field 35 in the new fox poll. Now even though he announced his president ial run a few weeks ago, biden is comparing for the official Campaign Kickoff rally where you see it in philadelphia. In just about an hour the former Vice President will fully lay out the final phase of his Campaign Rollout as he calls to unify the country. Were going to the big rally there and we have nbcs Garrett Haake, and Bernie Sanders is live in orangeburg, south carolina, where he just wrapped up a town hall. We will start with mike in philadelphia. What can we expect this afternoon in about an hour and change from now . Alex, good afternoon from what is really a postcard afternoon here in the heart of philadelphia. The word of the day you hib able to see it on screens behind me, united. Joe bidens been in the race for president a little over three years. Visiting the early states, New Hampshire, south carolina, nevada but today pennsylvania is seen as a capstone of this rollout and really a chance for the Vice President to focus on what they believe is a winning message for them and that is unifying the country. Let me read a little bit from the Vice President , what we expect to hear him say today. Hes going to say if the American People want a president to add to our division, lead with a clenched fist, closed hand and heart hard, demonize the opponent and spew hatred, they dont need me. Im running to offer our country, republicans and democrats, a different path. This rhetoric from the Vice President gets squarely they heart of the most important debates of the primary and there are a lot of potentials that think hes being naive, that in this climate there isnt a chance to Work Across Party Lines anymore. I had a chance to ask the Vice President about that earlier in New Hampshire. Lets listen to how he answered that question. If you noticed, Mitch Mcconnell and i, were friends and worked out every deal. People said you cant deal with Mitch Mcconnell but you can deal with reality. And the reality is theres an awful lot that can be done. Biden saying in this speech he believes democrats do want to unify the nation. Theres a lot of symbolism with the choice of philadelphia as a rally. The Vice President will talk about the place our founding documents were written. And political symbolism in this rally, the Biden Campaign believes the road to the white house is won or lost here in pennsylvania. And a new quinnipiac shows joe biden leads President Trump in a match here 53 to 42 . We will see him wind down a little bit and begin to focus on the allimportant debate at the end of june. That will be a critical moment, testing whether joe biden can maintain the frontrunner status he has now. That will be a huge test. We will check back in. That is supposed to get under way in about an hour or so. Sounds good. Thank you for that. Lets go to Garrett Haake with the Sanders Campaign in south carolina. Garrett, good day to you. Lets get the latest on sanders southeastern swing here. Alex, good afternoonl. Were about two days in for a fourday swing for Bernie Sanders across the Southern States that proved problematic for him in his primary Campaign Last time. He has to do better here with africanamerican voters in particular if he wants to improve upon his 2016 results and actually be the democratic nominee. Yesterday two big rallies in North Carolina and today in orangeburg, south carolina, senator sanders unveiled his education plan. It is robust and deals a great deal with teachers pay. Teachers must be honored and respected. So if we are a nation that can provide contracts to Baseball Players for hundreds of millions of dollars, dont tell me we cannot pay teachers in this country the kind of wages and salaries they deserve. And what are those wages and salaries, alex . It would set a pay nationwide of 60,000 and banning outright private charter schools, putting a moratorium on the expansion of public charter schools, making sure students have yeararound meals in schools. Students cannot learn if theyre hungry. And it massively expands afterschool activities in public schools. Whats missing from this plan, an overall price tag how to pay for it, alex. Can i ask you, do you get any sense folks in the Sanders Campaign are rattled at all by joe biden and his surge in virtual chul virtu virtual virtually every poll out there . I think sanders felt like it would be them and someone else down the stretch, much as it was in 2016. Sanders against the liberal Hillary Clinton. Being the alternative to joe biden is a space theyre comfortable operating in. I think the rest of us feel the scattered and dividing the opposition to biden, this would like to see the other supporters coalesce around him who would not be as comfortable with the joe Biden Campaign. But the Sanders Campaign will run the campaign they want to run and they are preparing for a very long race. Which means you will be out on the campaign trail for quite some time, and we will see a lot of you. Garrett haake, thank you for that. Also coming up how the Trump Administration is grap elg with the overflow of immigrants at the border. Detention facilities overwhelmed so theyre planning to fly up to 3,500 migrants mostly families up to three times a week from Holding Centers in texas to california. The New York Times reports Asylum Seekers could be sent to Centers Across the u. S. , including along the border with canada. Some cities being considered include miami, buffalo, new york and detroit. This morning a democratic congresswoman from detroit told me police and other officials there are concerned about this plan. Both sides have to figure out how to come to the table, keep the people safe, address humanitarian issues and make sure we have labor where labor is need ed and stop playing games. Thats all this is. Its been two decades and we cannot deal with one of the most pressing problems addressing this nation. Meanwhile the House Judiciary Committee is scheduled for next tuesday, the testimony of muellers star witness on obstruction, that being former White House Counsel Don Mcgahn but that may be unlikely because the white house is trying to block all current and former aides from cooperating. A top member of the Judiciary Committee is outlining their next move. I think theres a major breakthrough coming, joy, which is up until now the press has basically framed this, are you for impeachment or are you against impeachment . In some sense thats the long question. Thats the very end of the analysis, end of the process. What were focused on how is should we have an impeachment inquiry . More people think this is inescapable and inevitable to vi vindicate the constitution and rule of law. Also new today, clashes this time around with policy towards iran with National Security adviser john bolton reportedly clashing with secretary of state mike pompeo. And three Trump Administration officials telling the Washington PostSenior AdviserStephen Miller tried to have another shakeup at the department of Homeland Security. But the acting secretary prevented it. The president just blaming the media. These people, they put out messages that im angry with my people. Im not angry. They make it sound like its a conflict but they put out false confidential sources. You ever notice they never write the names of people anymore. Everything is a source says. There is no source. The person doesnt exist. The person is not alive. Its bull [ bleep ], okay . [ bleep ]. So president ial there. Joining me now, gabby oar, White House Reporter from political co, peter baker chief White House Reporter for the New York Times and brian bennett, senior White House Correspondent for time magazine. Lets get right into this here. Peter, i will begin with you. The president certainly pushing back as you heard there using such colorful language against all of the reports of conflict between him, bolton, secretary pompeo. He said hes the one making the calls on iran. Where does the truth lie . Well, look, hes always denied things that turned out to be true. This is not unusual. I remember one time he went off on a tangent like you just showed saying theres no source for this particular story. The source turned out to be someone his white house put at the podium to brief reporters and that person didnt exist. I will take all of the comments with a grain of salt. Sometimes its a sign to talk to the president at times and then goes out and complains theyre not real. Theres a little bit of a game playing when that kind of thing happens. Yes, there are conflicts inside this white house and signed this administration. Its not surprising there would be. The president even admits sometimes there are disagreements, he just doesnt like the word infighting. Thats fine. But they are important issues and go to a deep and fundamental divide between interventionism and pulling back. This is the president who ran on the idea of pulling back from endless wars, he called it, overseas and hired people around him, republican thats believe we have more of a responsibility and should be assertive and forwardleading on issues like iran. With regard to this iran, peter, and these leaks that are presumably coming from inside the white house, it might portray more dysfunction at the white house but on the flip side, what we are hearing would suggest the president is being more measured on iran. Are these the same sources who call out the president when hes demonstrating these more rational episodes . Its interesting, right. His first generation National Security team is perceived to be the People Holding him back, jim mattis, rex tillerson, the grownups in the room restraining this volatile president. Now we see it the other way around in a way, people around him like john bolton and , mike pompeo, are more hawkish and these seen as being reluctant to using more military force, resistant to whats happening. Hes been quoted saying john bolton, if it was up to him, i would already be in four wars. He means it as a joke but it goes to a pretty important instinct on his part, which the people around him are more willing to use military force than he is. Theres also a reporter standoff between Stephen Miller and the acting secretary at the department of Homeland Security. The post is citing three Trump Administration officials on this. What is your read on this apparent dysfunction in the west wing . I mean, weve known for quite a while now Stephen Miller is trying to implement significant changes at dhs and throughout the immigration system. Hes run into trouble for. He got his pick as acting secretary Kevin Mclennan at the agency but now as acting secretary saying look, im in charge here. This is an agency where i need to oversee personnel changes and Stephen Miller seems to be, from what weve seen and the Washington Post is reporting and also from what i heard from white house officials, seems to be standing up and standing in the way of the acting dhs secretary. One of the things that he tried to do this past week behind the scenes wa to erase the nomination essentially of mark morgan to take over as acting director of i. C. E. He wanted to keep the deputy secretary, who is currently in the secretarying role there, in place and move mark morgan over to cdp. Its just contributing to ongoing morale problems across all of these different departments, not only to know that they have no permanent heads in place at a lot of these agencies but also the ongoing tension between the acting dhs secretary and one of the president s top officials. Let me get this straight, one of the president s top officials thinks hes going to help put somebody into place who he could have at times maybe be his puppet, right . He could be the person for which he could funnel certain Trump Administration policies and urge him and now that acting secretary is saying, i think were going to do it this way and it may be different than what you want . Thats exactly whats happening here. I think thats really frustrating for Stephen Miller because we know before that he has had people in dhs who hes called regularly, who he tried to pressure into putting forward his agenda and that hasnt worked previously and doesnt seem to be working now either. To what extent, brian, do you think the president worries about the appearance of him not being in control of his own cabinet . I think he does worry about that. I think he likes to be seen as somebody who is giving orders and having them followed. He likes to have people below him that he thinks are loyal to him specifically and his political interests and thats where a lot of this discrepancy is coming from. The president is now looking forward to 2020. He wants to go back to his supporters and say i fromme ipr i would keep you out of foreign wars and build a wall and have mexico play for it and deal with the ilLegal Immigration problem. Now hes looking at this cognitive disowe dance inside hissed station being policies more aggressive towards iran and military planning against that and hes uncomfortable with that and doesnt want it to look like with his base hes getting ready to do another intervention. Same thing with the wall. Hes been in office 2 1 2 years and there are more and more families coming over the border. Hes not been able to stem is that tide. That is incredibly frustrating for him. I think a lot of the chaos you see him surrounding advisers in dhs and all of the acting positions is hes still trying to figure out how to get his policies implemented in a way he feels like he could go to my base and say look, i told you i would fix this problem and i did and all of the solutions so far have not stemmed that tide. Hes frustrated and the turnover is a reflection of that. Brian brought us to a point talking about immigration and your paper is reporting a retire move by the Trump Administration to fly migrants from texas to california, could be expanded by sending Asylum Seekers to Processing Centers throughout the United States. What is your assessment of this move . Theres a serious issue at the border, no question about that. They are in fact overwhelmed, facilities not able to handle whats happening right now. The question is, this is an administration that has sent signals its willing to play politics on this kind of thing. That notably raises questions about credibility whenever they come up with a proposal like this. Remember the president was purported to be considering a policy to send migrants to democratic districts, safe sanctuary cities, in order to punish them they shumt have the policies they advocate. He sen his aides said no, were not considering that and the president said yes, actually, i am. So the problem is when theyre dealing with a genuine issue and genuine response has seen a filter of politics. Thats going to be a problem for this administration, even as it tries to grapple with something that is genuinely a problem. Im just about out of time. Brian, i want to ask you a question about trade because i know you wrote about it with regard to the president s 25 tariff on china, could be the riskiest move yet. Hes taking that risk. Give us a sense on the white houses thinking how far the president goes on this. Trump is incredibly frustrated he hasnt been able to get china to trade its trading practices and come with media examples of they are willing to do on trade. Its based on his promise, that he would go tough on chinas bad trays practices and hes trying to use tariffs to do that. And he was hoping the 25 would bring china to the negotiating table with something seriously real and not just a promise to buy more soy beans and that just isnt materialized. We will have to see how that plays out over the next several weeks and months but its a reflection of the president wanting to get china to change, and seeing his terror strategy is not working. Speaking of soybeans, gabby, you wrote about that a