So you dont enjoy doing these fundraisers . No, i dont anybody does. I dont think politicians do. Im sure you have covered them before. Its not the most fun thing to do you know, i spend probably a quarter of my time now raising millions and millions of dollars to fund my foundation which is basically chasing and looking for money that these corrupt politicians all around the world are hiding. The Panama Papers have been actually incredibly helpful. We have forensic accountants. But this is all a very big part of things that are important to me. I really want Citizens United. I think its the worst one of the worst laws passed since i have been around. You know, Bernie Sanders obviously you have noted that his campaign was criticizing this. He was asked about your fundraiser specifically and he tried he backed off. Su its not a criticism of clooney. It is a criticism of a corrupt Campaign Finance system where big money interest its not clooney, but the people who are coming to this event have undue influence over the political process. Do you think people that are coming to your event, tonight and went last night, that they that they think they will get extra access to a president clinton . No. I actually dont think thats true. I think there is a difference between the Koch Brothers and us. You know . The difference is, if i succeed if we succeed in electing an entire congress, but a senate and a president , young, the tax policies that they would enact would probably cost us a lot more money quite honestly. The Koch Brothers would profit if they get their way and thats what you know, we have theres no profit for us in this. You know, understanding this. The Koch Brothers have said theyre going to spend presidency. But on the down ticket. On the senators and the Gubernatorial Race and the local races, and so our job is to try and counter that in some way. You actually had plenty of nice things to say about Bernie Sanders. I think you did an interview with the guardian where you said you liked the issues he was bringing up. You thought he was pushing Hillary Clinton in a certain way. Im curious, why did you pick clinton over sanders . Well, i worked with secretary clinton as a secretary particularly when when sudan and south sudan were looking to vote for their own independence. It was an incredibly dangerous time for that country and there were you know, hundreds of thousands of people of lives at risk. Between the secretary and the Security Council and some of the people on the ground, kofi annan, jimmy carter, thousands of people on the ground, we that didnt happen. She understood it, she understood the issues even though we dont have much reason to Pay Attention to the sudan. We dont trade with them or get money from them. We found her to be knowledgeable and to care about the issues and we have worked together since then and i have been a very big fan of hers. But i want to say this. I really like bernie. I think his what hes saying in this election is very important if youre a democrat again to have these conversations. I hope he stays in for the entire election. And if he were to win the nomination, i will do whatever i can including if asked a fundraiser like this, again, to try to keep bringing to try to give him or her, hillary i hope she wins, a senate. Because honestly we see what happens when a president tries to get their Supreme Court justice confirmed without the senate. You have you have minced no words about your feelings xenophobic fascist. I hope im quoting you correctly. I think youre pretty close. Fair enough. What have your interactions been with him . Ever had any personal i met him once. I was sitting down at a table. He was nice. Then we talked a couple of times, i think. And then he went on larry king and told everybody i was very short. I met you sitting down. But no, its not about that. You know, heres the point about whats going on right now on the other side. Trump and cruz are making this a campaign of fear. We have to be afraid of everything. We have to be afraid of refugees. We have to be afraid of muslims, we have to be afraid of minorities. And the question is, this is an important one, are we really going to be scared of the very things that have made our country great . And if the answer is, yes, then we have history to answer to. Because were not afraid. We are not a cotr i refuse to accept that. Why do you think fear has been working at least in the Republican Party . Because fear has always worked one way or another. In elections, fear has always been a great you know, one of the great tools of any election. But the reality is, we are not the descendants of fearful people. Were not. So no, were not going to ban muslims from this country. Thats never going to happen. Were not going to go back to torture. And we are we are not going to kill the families of terrorists or suspected terrorists. Because that is not who we are. And if we did, we would make our grandparents and their parents would be ashamed of us. Im curious, hollywood and a lot of movie studios were aggressive in putting pressure on the veto a bill that would have made it easier to discriminate against gays and lesbians and other folks and some of that same pressure is being applied to North Carolina. First of all, do you approve of pressure like that and what do you make of the North Carolina law . Well, i am im a protester i got arrested in d. C. A couple of years ago with my father protesting. Im a big believer in protesting. I think it matters from the 56 montgomery bus protest to the apartheid protest that i was part of when i was a young man. But i find these to be really effective because these are big corporations that are protesting. When you have ibm and walmart of all people and General Electric and people like that coming at you, it affects people. We saw it with mike pence in indiana, we saw it with jan brewer in arizona. I think that theyre going to have some great effect and i think the law is ridiculous of course. All right, George Clooney, i have kept you long appreciate it. Thank you, chuck, i appreciate it. As you saw there, that was George Clooney, striking an unusual conciliatory tone towards Bernie Sanders but thursday nights debate got pretty heat and it wasnt so conciliatory. Wait a minute, wait, come on. I have stood on the debate can i with senator sanders eight prior times. I have said the exact same thing. There you go. The New York Primary is on tuesday. Joining me is Debbie Wasserman schultz of florida, as well as the panel. Madam chairman, nice to see you. Let me start with what George Clooney said, a big chunk of this is obscene. Do you agree . Absolutely. Theres an obscene amount of money in politics im a cosponsor along with many of my colleagues that would overturn the Citizens United. We need to make sure that keep elections that like we did with changing congressional the Congressional District and redistricting across the country that voters to choose their representatives and that we dont have outside undue influence come in and swoop in and make decisions on behalf of the majority of voters. As i said, people see the panel is here. Chris matthews, kathleen parker, hugh hewitt and perry bacon. Chris, fire away. I think one thing that Bernie Sanders is saying is not true. Hes talking about members of congress, people in washington, taking money for speeches. You voted that out years ago. Right, there are no honorariums. The bottom line here, we have two candidates who are at the more narrow end of the funnel as we end the primary election contest. It will get more but look, compared to the republicans who are in utter chaos, our two candidates have been substantive and robust. They have kept largely to the issues that are important to the American People. Talked about how they want to build on the congressional delegates Congressional Democrats legacy. We want to move the country for and help people reach the middle class. They have slightly different approaches to how to get there. But its a substantialtive discussion. Bernie sanders has really attacked the 1990 the crime bill of 94 and welfare bill of 96 were bad legislation. Do you agree with that . I think the impact of the crime bill has had some important effects and some detrimental effects. Both of our candidates voted for the crime bill. I think most democrats would agree that there needs to be reforms so that we can make sure that sentencing and manage our criminal Justice System is a lot more equitable and fair than it is today. Kathleen . Going back to the financing of political campaigns Everybody Loves to talk about how much we dislike Citizens United. Youll find republicans dislike it too. Certainly thats not reflected in how they vote. Well, mitt romney spoke out about how much he disliked it because it gives so much power to people who are sort of marginal well, benefiting it handsomely. Thats not my question, im laying that out as a prefatory note. Is there any consideration given to the possibility of limiting campaigns as other countries do, to make them two months and make them publicly funded. Would it be possible . Only by democrats. Certainly democrats have supported Public Financing of campaigns. I know i do. And many of my colleagues do. We do need to have, you know, together and try to make that reform. But republicans have no interest in changing the Campaign Finance system. They support the hundreds of millions of dollars of outside undue influence swooping in and weighing heavily on the outcome of any election contest thats obscene. We need to elect majorities in congress that the democrats can make a difference and change. Hugh, last question. Let me get to something that didnt come up in the cow bell debate on thursday night. After lewandowski was charged, Many Democrats and many republicans said of Donald TrumpsCampaign Manager he should be fired an he wasnt. If any of secretary clintons aides are indicted in the fbi server investigation, should the same standard apply . Im not going to go near that. I dont think thats going to happen and attend of the day well have a campaign that will play out. Our nominee will be elect president of the United States because we are on the side of the American People and ultimately its not about whether or not its going to happen. Its about the standard. If a senior aide is ever indicted in the campaign as mr. Lewandowski was, should they be fired immediately . Again, i dont think that thats going to happen. So its not a question that is one that i think make sense to answer. Im focused on making sure that when we get to the end of our primary, were preparing for the general election we can and we will elect our nominee, the 45th president of the United States. Well leave it there. Debbie wasserman shult, thank you for coming in. Coming up, donald trump loses a delegate contest in yet another state at a convention. If he cant stop the bleeding, can h you can fly across welcome town in minutes16, or across the globe in under an hour. Whole communities are living on mars and solar satellites provide earth with unlimited clean power. 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Ricochetted between trashing the Republican National committee and trying to make peace with it. And its clear now though that donald Trump Realizes the game is about winning on the first ballot at the convention or hes doomed. The Republican National committee, they should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this kind of crap. The fight between the republican frontrunner and the Republican Party smoldering for days is turning to an allout war. The system, folks, is rigged. Its a rigged system. Its a rigged system, folks. The republican system is rigged. An onagain offagain feud with Party Leaders is ratcheting up as trump tries a campaign reboot. After a crushing 13point defeat in wisconsin, trump turned a page sidelining cory lewandowski. Hiring a new delegate wrangler Paul Manafort and political rnc, reaching out to members of congress and limiting exposure to the media to just friendly interviews. I will be so president ial you wont believe it. But even as trumps new team attempts to keep him scripted. Get him out. Dont hurt him. See how nice i am . Putting out a the wall street journal oped promising to work closely with the chairman of the Republican National committee and top gop officials to reform our election policies. Trump himself shows no sign of letting up. The Republican National committee they better get going because ill tell you what youre going to have a rough july at that convention. But can trump afford to alienate the Party Insiders he needs to unite the party and win a general election . Hes already struggling with swing voters. Whos going to pay for the wall . 79 of hispanic voters now view trump unfavorably. Ill use the word anchor baby. Excuse me. Ill use the so do 67 of suburban women and 72 of moderates. Youve called women you dont like fat pigs, dogs, slobs and disgusting animals. Your twitter account only rosie odonnell. Three years ago after mitt romneys defeat the party charted a path back to the white house that imagined a big tent Republican Party and recommended new appeals to women and minority voters. A welcoming attitude that we need to have in our party. I think that we had some biologically stupid things that were said in the last election. Im joined now by the chairman of the Republican National committee Reince Priebus. Chairman priebus, welcome back to meet the press. Good morning. Let me start with thank you. Your republican frontrunner continually calling the process youre overseeing rigged. How do you tell Republican Voters you are running a fair process when the frontrunner is calling what youre doing rigged . Look, i dont know what the motivation is. Theres really nothing thats rigged or being changed or altered. These are the same rules that were in place basically for over a century. But at the very least theres no way around the fact that all of these states submitted their delegate allocation plans by october 1st of 2015. And not a single thing has changed about it. These conventions that people talk about, number one, its not common, but a few states out west use a Convention System where delegates start competing at the county level a month ago and they go through the county, the precinct, the Congressional District and a state convention. And the candidates participate the whole way through. And no one was complaining except for when it was all over. And look, every state is different. And you can reform the system. I mean, look, this has been an ongoing debate. Right. But you have to go state by state its a pretty extraordinary task. How concerned are you when donald trump says the rnc better be prepared for a rough july . And are you concerned about reports of threats being made to delegate segate delegates . What do you say to any campaign doing that . Well, sure, look, theres no room for threatening the delegates or the convention or anybody that would be going to our national convention. But i also think some of this is rhetoric and hyperbole. And the truth is is that the delegates themselves are the ones that write the rules for the convention. The rnc doesnt write any rules. The rnc has basically an administrative role at the convention. Its by majority rule the delegates can run the convention. So its on them to decide what they want to do about a lot of these issues. Not us. Whos backing this nominee, the voters or the delegates . You know, i think its a combination. But its empowered by the voters, so the voters empower the deles in most cases are bound by the outcome of caucuses and primaries and conventions make the decisions at the convention. Think about this, i think we lose sigh