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The 12th Amendment, the Vice President, and the Electoral Count - Vimarsana News

The 12th Amendment, the Vice President, and the Electoral Count

The Constitution is clear that it does not specify who counts the votes, and thus leaves it to whatever entity has residual power in the area (here, the Senate and the House of Representatives) to resolve how the votes are counted.

MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show January 5, 2022 02:16:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show January 5, 2022 02:16:00

Of the coup. quote in my mind it was here in the bulls eye center of the action that trump operated likely along with chief of staff, rudy giuliani, house minority leader, michael flynn. representative jordan and the most extreme elements of the gop house and senate conferences. the strategy for trump to stay in power. if in when pence did that, by vaguely citing allegations of fraud in those states and quote returning their votes to the state legislature, pence would succeed in lowering biden's electoral vote total to below 270. which would immediately trigger under the 12th amendment a conti...

MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show January 5, 2022 09:16:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show January 5, 2022 09:16:00

Specific states. if in when pence did that, by vaguely citing allegations of fraud in those states and quote returning their votes to the state legislature, pence would succeed in lowering biden's electoral vote total to below 270. which would immediately trigger under the 12th amendment a contingent election. the house contingent election the one place where trump could still, quote, win the election. again, those are the three rings of sort of the attack that jaskin i think presciently describes in terms of what was going on, on january 6. of course there is tonight ahead of attorney general...

CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar January 6, 2022 13:11:00 - Vimarsana News

CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar January 6, 2022 13:11:00

That they seem to know were unfortified in particular areas. they were the ones who led the attack on our officers and started hitting them over the head with steel pipes and confederate battle flags and so on. then there was the inside action, donald trump trying to figure out a way to intimidate mike pence and this is what we call the realm of the coup. it is a weird word in american political parlance, we don't have a lot of experience with coups and we think of a coup as something taking place against a president, this was a coup organized by the president against the vice president and ag...

MSNBC Deadline White House January 17, 2022 22:27:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC Deadline White House January 17, 2022 22:27:00

Coincidences in politics, and for as chaotic as the trump era was, there actually was something in writing abo just this, the eastman memo says, quote, at the end, pence announces that because of the ongoing disputes in seven states, there are no electors that can be deemed validly appointed in those states. that means the total number of electors appointed, the language of the 12th amendment is 454, a majority of the electors appointed would therefore be 228. at this point, 232 votes for trump, pence then gavels in, trump is re-elected. the coup plot as put on paper by john eastman was predic...