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Our panel back with us. ab abby, let me start with you. we just experienced the 50th anniversary of the watergate break-in and the big question there from senator howard baker is, what did the president know and when he did know it? president knew everything. in this case. this isn't some low-level break-in that nixon found out about later. this is -- everything was because donald trump wanted it. he might not have known every single detail, but he was the impetus for all of it. >> and he was aware of the fake electors, he was aware that the legal argument itself was not true, he had been told...

What the lawyers have to say about these insane, quote, unquote, legal theories. and also the machinations that were happening in doj. i think you don't have to be a lawyer to know that all of these ideas were probably illegal, that they didn't make any sense. but i think that the lawyers who are lawyers will be pretty blunt in breaking down why none of this really made any sense and we'll learn some things, probably, about how close we got to some really unethical people getting installed in the justice department at a really critical moment. >> one of the things, abby, to go back to your poi...

Trying to put into place tariffs against mexico. and also china in the future. alisyn? >> we will see. of course, he doesn't think it's unrelated, but we will talk about a lot of that in the program. ab abby, thank you very much. the trump administration insists that tariffs on mexico are needed to slow the overwhelming flow of migrants attempting to cross into the u.s. so why has the situation at the border become so much more urgent recently? cnn's diane gallagher is live in el paso, texas, with more. what's the situation, diane? >> so, alisyn, look, we had more than 130,000 people who were ...

Take take our word for it, and cnn's abby phillip. listen to the authorities who ab abby, i guess this was a win for are actually in florida who say there's no evidence of voter the first lady. i don't know if that's way she or her team would see it. fraud. ballot disputes, yes, signature issues, yes, outdated voting it's certainly a sign of the machines, yes, but not the kind impact she can have. >> it does seem, though, like a of voter fraud the president is double-edged sword for her. alleging, not in arizona, in the first place, the fact she either. not anywhere during this election or acc...