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Abuse question that i want to talk about. the fact that it's a presidential power doesn't mean that it's without abuse. a governor who auctions off a pardon is abusing power and there are statutes to deal with that. given that obstruction was one of the house judiciary issues in above the the clinton and nixon cases, is the abuse of the pardon power something in your view that can amount to potential obstruction? >> i think so. if you use that pardon power, which is absolute except in matters of impeachment, but if you use that pardon power in exchange for interfering with an investigation, ly...

Individuals abusing their responsibilities in nsa and doing things they shouldn't. so to say there is no abuse is wrong. what peter king is saying is that the program of capturing metadata isn't abuse at all, because it's constitutional, permissible. other people would say no. in fact, that isn't abuse. so the question is not whether there are individual cases of abuse. the question is, were those caught by oversight. and were those people disciplined. and the answer to those questions is undoubtedly yes. >> i think judge leon, you know, you mentioned that ruling last week. his view is he disa...

Burns over the majority of their bodies. live pictures from rome where thousands are gathering for the way of the cross procession, commemorating the way jesus suffered before the crucifixion. the pope hasn't mentioned the recent sex scandal and accusations he helped cover up sexual child abuse but the head of germany's roman catholic bishops issued a statement saying clerics neglected helping by protecting the accused. greg burke is live in rome with the news. >> the pope has been quiet on the abuse question but top aides have not been. one tonight, during a ceremony in st. peter, quoting a...