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It seems to me on this issue, to piggyback what i was talking about, kay hagen moving in this direction, john tester moving in this direction, we are now officially seeing this evolution of the democratic party where same-sex marriage is becoming a centerpiece. >> yeah, look, i think action luke, you're exactly right. barack obama's move from civil unions in 2008, to supporting same-sex marriage by 2012, i think pressed what we're seeing now. it's now sort of 9 default or the rapidly becoming the default position testify democratic elected officials in most places in this country to be for sam...

Progress, and realistic assessments of the trouble, the problems, the challenges that lie ahead. back to you, luke. see you in washington tomorrow. and andrea's traveling home safely. next defending doma with tony perkins from the family research council. plus heightened rhetoric from north korea, threat in this u.s. military bases. our report from the pentagon ahead, do not go anyway. check us out. victor! i got your campbell's chunky soup.

Up. richard, a lot of need things going on today. i remember some app.s specifically to help veterans get jobs. it's all about placing them in a job which best suits the skills they learned in the military career. >> reporter: yeah, luke, the objective is to try to reach 500,000 jobs. so far the program has been successful at 100,000. the challenge is this cultural whiplash. the medal of honor recipient dakota meyer describes it for us. >> we were successful in the military, built our whole life. we get out in the civilian life and now we can't even get a job? provide for our family? >> report...

Until every single gay and lesbian in america has the right to marry the person they love without big government getting in the way. joining me now, tony perkins, president of the family research council, one of the biggest opponents of same-sex marriage. mr. perkins welcome to the show. >> good afternoon, luke. >> it seems that the court is in position to possibly strike down doma. or some based on the states' rights arguments. i have a question for you. do you agree -- what is your problem with them knocking down the states' rights argument? >> well, there's really two components of doma, ...

It's so clear from our experience in massachusetts, and frankly from those who are more conservative, and looking at the fundamental basis in marriage, in a ways that two people commit to each other, they commit to their the building block on which we believe we get stable communities. how ironic now that everybody is recognizing that this is good for everybody, for same-sex marriages, for the communities, for the children in those marriages, and i think the public is going to see that probably sooner than the supreme court, but we're going to stay looking for that decision in june. >> attorne...