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before, zoe lofgren leading that second hearing and pete auilar talking about the pressure campaign on mike pence. this will focus on the pressure campaign at the state level. they're going to use, as you mentioned, lawmakers from georgia to make that point. of course, that's one of the key states that we know that former president trump was pressuring election officials to overturn the election results or at least, in his words, find the overrule 11,000 votes that he would need in order to win georgia, which he actually lost. they're also likely to delve deeper into the idea of fake...

President mike pence on the campaign trail today. what are we expecting to hear from him? >> reporter: we've got to take the political ramifications, all of this into account. why? because now it's about 18 months since the january 6th insurrection. if you fast forward 18 months from now, you're looking at the iowa caucus for the gop nomination for president for 2024. and that is why you have seen the former vice president leave open the door to his own potential 2024 run. even in a potential showdown against donald trump. he is here today in illinois, he's giving an economic address in chicag...