Needed. as we saw in jalalabad, closing girls' schools, telling women who work in the workplace to go home, they're no longer to do that. and they're punishing people with amputations. it is the same awful taliban we've known about since they ruled the country in 1998. >> mike rogers, you have two consecutive presidents, a republican and democrat, essentially making the same decision about afghanistan, withdrawing. trump had the same plan. set a negotiation, withdraw by may 1st, and biden doing the same thing. what do you believe was the alternative? do you believe it would have been smart -- ...