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and so i'm not yet prepared to express wild optimism. but i think we are further along today than we were yesterday. >> joel brown is in washington. good morning, joel. what's the latest as time runs out? >> yeah, betty. you know, this bargaining on the budget has been a nonstop back and forth between the capitol and the white house. but still, the first government shutdown in 15 years is now closer than ever. president obama says he needs an answer this morning from congressional leaders working to avoid a government shutdown at midnight. >> my hope is, is that i'll be able to annou...

they're important to both sides. and so i'm not yet prepared to express wild optimism. but i think we are further along today than we were yesterday. >> joel brown is in washington. good morning, joel. what's the latest as time runs out? >> yeah, betty. you know, this bargaining on the budget has been a nonstop back and forth between the capitol and the white house. but still, the first government shutdown in 15 years is now closer than ever. president obama says he needs an answer this morning from congressional leaders working to avoid a government shutdown at midnight. >> my hope ...

they're important to both sides. and so i'm not yet prepared to express wild optimism. but i think we are further along today than we were yesterday. >> joel brown is in washington. good morning, joel. what's the latest as time runs out? >> yeah, betty. you know, this bargaining on the budget has been a nonstop back and forth between the capitol and the white house. but still, the first government shutdown in 15 years is now closer than ever. president obama says he needs an answer this morning from congressional leaders working to avoid a government shutdown at midnight. >> my hope ...