kind of right up in their faces. she was arrested a few minutes ago and taken away in handcuffs. what you want to see is folks keeping their distance and standing, facing the police, that is great. you don t want to see anyone go up to them on purpose to provoke action. police have ben really stoic in not reacting to whatever things are being said at them. if things are being thrown and we ve seen some of that going onme onment. i don t know if we decided what that was, but it was basically to say keep away, a little poof something, protecting the perimeter or the no man s land between the police and the protesters. we haven t gotten confirmation on exactly what it is, but we can understand your tactic and philosophy and approach, which is to say, hey, keep your distance, don t come any closer. we re good with you being there exercising your first amendment rights. you can say what you want, but don t throw things at us or come up to our faces and threaten us. even with this escalated tension in the last 30 minutes or so play out, you know, compared to what we ve seen around the country, we hope this will be able to take a turn towards tamping down tensions and knno hostility between the two. there was one person who had a scuffle with an officer and was arrested. dan noyes is in downtown san jose. dan, what have you been seeing and hearing? i m at the corner of seventh and santa clara streets. there s standoffs happening right now. police have come on the intercom to say that they have declared this an unlawful assembly. there s a standoff here. the crowd, 150 people, are not bundle. they aren t going anyplace. now, the police officers fired a couple of rubber bullets, i believe, in response to some people throwing things at them. i heard the shot of what looked like a riot gun. they might have fired a rubber bullet. i m looking at it right now. i m not definite, but that s what i assume it was. they warned, they tested a low-frequency audio device, which is basically crowd control. if it gets too crazy, too tense, they ll actually fire off this audio device and it really does incapacitate can you make out what people are saying, dan? as you re hearing now, they re ordering people to disperse. they re ordering people to disperse. as i was saying, that audio device will send out a signal that makes it just painful to stay in the area. they have tested that device and people are, of course, getting concerned. but overall, you know, this is by no way it is oh, i see what looks like a scuffle over there. looks like police a are responding to someone. there we go. there s tear gas going on. and some rubber bullets fired. i see the projectiles going into the crowd. i m turning away my eyes so i wouldn t be hit. i mean, i ve done stories on those projectiles, and they can blind you if they hit you in the eye. they are plastic projectiles, but they re full of metal pellets, so they do hurt. the crowd is going back. there are some okay. there are some people who are staying. and they are standing up to the police. as the standoff goes on a woman just told me it was a peaceful protest until the police showed up. the police are trying to take some control. these protesters blocked this intersection, took it over. and there s a standoff right now. as i said, the police did fire projectiles into the crowd. they did fire off some tear gas. but this was quite windy out here, so the tear gas quickly dispersed. i actually see someone who has the unless that s something else. anyway, the people are not backing down. some of the crowd is coming back towards the police officers. this is not a good scene. no. the police have shown their force. they told the protesters to leave. more police look like they re moving in. dan, keep us updated there and stay safe, obviously. this is what we re worried about as things escalated today, as tensions rise. most of the protesters have been peaceful, but some have seemed to agitate the police or at least try to provoke the police. now police seem to be responding. dan, what are you seeing now? the police are giving another warning. they are repeating this is an unlawful assembly. you have to disperse. they re holding their signs, some are cursing back at the police officers. kind of an ebb and flow. the police will have their show of force, the protesters leave. the show of force stops it is protesters come back. so it is a very tense situation right now. dan, is there the sense that it s building towards something? because we saw a line of police on the move in usefulnenison. and then we saw a huge collection of police motorcycles suddenly arriving at the same scene. what do you think? is it building towards one area? is it just what we re seeing here is where it s all happening in terms of this confrontation? oh. sorry. what is that? what happened here was that someone someone threw a bottle at the police officers. and they responded with those that riot gun, that gun that shots t shoots the projectiles. you always have some cover, so i m positioned behind a tree that i can look out, see what s happening, and then if there s something kicking off, i can take my cover. very smart. the police are moving now. they are pushing forward. the police are pushing forward. you have some officers on motorcycles. you have other officers in riot gear. they re doing their best to try to t thi intersection. looks like they re about to clear that intersection, seventh and santa clara street. dan, where are they pushing people towards? can you tell? is there a direction? where are they heading? they are heading west on santa clara street. looks like they just they are firing into the crowd again and again. i can see the projectiles flying through the air and hitting the protesters. they are keeping the shots at base level. that s really important because, as i said, you can take out an eye easily with those projectiles. loks like what they wanted to do was to retake that intersection. they were not going to give up thatn. intersectio r now they are pushing the st. seventh street and sixth street. moving down the block. dan, are you on the move again walking behind the police now? where are you exactly? well, i m right at the line with the police officers. okay. i am with the i am just to the side of the protesters. i m trying to keep my distance. we re right at horace mann elementary school right now. the officers saying again and again that this is an unlawful assembly and you have to disperse. they are pushing their way down santa clara street to get these people to disperse. but i tell you, dan, i m looking down the street and it looks like there are more people gathering. this is not dispersing. it s getting bigger. we re moving, but it s not dispersing. they re just pushing the group back and more people are gathering behind the police line, sounds like. exactly, exactly. dan, please do be careful. we know you have a lot of experience covering these types of situations, but it looks awfully tense and tre s so many things that could go wrong. so please, please do be careful. i appreciate that, kristen. i have had a lot of experience doing this. on the way here, i got to say that the people, protesters i met and talked to there s another rubber bullet. i ll bring back a souvenir for you. but the protesters i talked to were all perfectly fine with me many knew i was with channel 7. i don t fear any tension or aggression from protesters. but of course i m doing my best to stay out of the action. sure. again, a rubber bullet just theextnterctn sixth streety police officers would you say are in that immediate area versus the protesters? dan, did we lose you? all right, we may have lost dan noyes. dan literally is down there somewhere along that tree line right where the protesters and the police are meeting. police trying to push them down the street trying to get them to disperse, but as he has pointed out, they re really not dispersing. they re just being pushed farther down te street and more protesters are gathering, it seems to him, behind the police line. so police are effectively moving them, but not dispersing them. the point of confrontation is simply moving.but yohtthey re eo we seeerio thi as dan reported, pellet guns and tear gas. at the protesters. earlier, dan, it looked like they were sort of aiming in the empty spots away from people, but as this continues to escalate and officers are on the move, we have seen some pellet guns being fired at people, you know, at the foot level, knee level. which is designed to sort of sting, scare, and intimate. you don t want to get hit in the face with that. but no injure anybody. here we have a little bit more. when you see running, you really start to worry that the situation is deteriorating rapidly. we saw at least one protester who they can t into a scuffle with an officer who was eventually taken down. i hope we don t see a lot more of that situation. but as you said, the protesters are not backing down. there s another man now. flex cuffs being put on him. dan noyes is back on. dan, update us. we re watching a man being arrested. sorry about that, dan. i had to quickly move away. the police just surged in a pretty big way, firing rubber bullets and some tear gas as well. as i say, the tear gas disperses very quickly in the breeze that s out here. but they had a sudden burst where they charged the protesters. that seemed to work. it s definitely scattered them. the thing is, it s scattered them now to a wider area. people backed off the immediate face-off with the police officers, but then they have scattered to different streets along the way. i saw one young man who was hit with a rubber bullet in the leg. it hit him so hard that it took him down. he was in obvious pain. i asked him whether he was okay. i looked at the welt on his leg. that s exactly what i knew it to be. those rubber bullets, they call them projectiles of force, plastic covers with metal inside of them. they hurt. they sting, yeah. would you mind if i okay. i was just handed a projectile from a bystander here. these are not as heavy as some of them i ve felt. can i have this? okay, thank you. so i m hearing there are both projectiles here. here s a new theme, dan. this is something that s happening right now. people are taking a knee. probably 40 people right now taking a knee right in front of the officers. we don t have that shot yet on sky7. yes, now we see it. we ve got it. we see it. so the protesters have decided that tactic that s best is to take a knee and not move. the officers have formed up their line. they are just watching. i m just a couple of feet away from that very front line where you see the protesters. as you can hear probably, dan, they re shouting i can t breathe, i can t breathe. you have probably 30 people across the right in front of the officers. you have another 60 people also taking a knee shouting i can t breathe. which is, of course, a reference to george floyd, the man in minneapolis who died in police custody over the weekend. as you re hearing again, dan. the officers is sending out a warning again. this is an unlawful assembly. they are doing their best to take back this intersection. seems like they just want to keep on pushing the protesters further away to get them to disperse. and i got to say the protesters are resilient. there we go again. they re scattering, firing projectiles. some of the protesters have run away. others are keeping their locations. hey, dan. i m just wondering if you can educate me on the strategy of trying to take over an intersection and to push the protesters back. i m wondering if there is no aggressive action toward the line of officers, why the need to kind of push them back and retake an intersection, intersection by intersection. kristen, in my experience, it would seem that the officers are doing their best to get the crowd in general to disperse. if they can keep on pushing them back, i think they re thinking hopefully they ll be able to tire them out. the problem is, these protesters are resilient. they do move back when there s something firing, when there s tear gas, when there s a projectile. they move but they reform. right now you have that other standoff. but het goes. of just letting them be and stay there? oh. see, what happens is that someone will challenge the officers, get up into their face, and then the individual officer will respond, and the other officers will support him. that s exactly what happened here. there s a young man who i saw earlier who seemed to begh offe. forward to that young man. the other officers also joined in. and they ran just a little bit, chased the young man away. they didn t catch him, but they have now reformed again in that thick line of police with the people kneeling in front of them. so this is very much a standoff right now. you re listening to the chants are going on [ inaudible ] but this wind is really picking up dan, you re a bit garbled at the moment. let s give you a moment, see if the signal improves from your cell phone. try again, dan. i was just going to say [ inaudible ] the wind is right in the face of the officers. okay. the wind is picking up, he said. it s right in the face of the officers, and that the tear gas that they have used in a couple of occasions out there not particularly effective because it s blowing in the wind as dan described. dan is there right on the scene. he s literally almost in the frame from sky7 that you re looking at just to the side in a safe location. he describes he s done this a lot and he knows what to do. he s taking good care of himself but he s bringing us remarkable fir firsthand accounts from street level. his signal got garbled at the end. kristen, for two and a half hours plus roughly, we just saw very peaceful protests, inconvenient searched for people on 101 and streets on san jose who got held up in traffic. but for the last half hour it s turned with a smaller group of protesters. you see that incident where there was a scuffle on the left with police. one man was put to the ground and arrested. dan, i just want to mention that our senator, kamala harris, who, as you know, is mentioned as a potential vice presidential running mate for vice president biden, she has tweeted out a video message saying black blood stains the sidewalks of america. folks are in pain and have been for a long time. floyd should not be dead. and it is seemingly in agreement with her message that s bringing these protesters out here to san jose, the streets of san jose this evening. as you said, a protest that involves starting at city hall, going over to highway 101 and shutting down the freeway. a blockade of traffic eventually resolved when they made their point there and marched off the freeway, but now after a fairly long standoff with police, we are seeing clashes. we are seeing both sides, protesters throwing things, police taking action on them, whether it s arresting someone or here s on the left is video of the man throwing punching frantically with police and police wrestling him to the ground. moments later he was taken off in handcuffs. the picture on the right side of your screen is live. again, there s more direct confrontation with police. police have been trying to maintain kind of a neutral zone of 10 or 15 feet as much as possible, but that has continually broken down. now you see what looks like one protester pushing another back, maybe trying to talk them into, hey, be cool, stay back, you know. don t keep going toward police. obviously they re trying to keep this protester away, the guy in the light blue shirt who will have none of it. he s back in the face of an officer. , dan, you always hope that cooler heads will prevail because anytime you have a large group of protests other any issue, you have a mix. most people just out there to make a statement and be heard and exercise their first amendment, you know, freedom of speech rights. a lot of people just regular citizens. and then you have a few that get mixed in there that are more inclined to make trouble and kind of distract and detract from the main message that the peaceful protesters are trying to make. so we hope that it is the peaceful protesters who will pr prevail here with their message of solidarity for george floyd. some do deliberately try to antagonize the police and then accuse the police of responding. it s difficult on both sides. here you see, again, more intense interaction with protesters trying to hold back a protester, it looks like. if you notice, kristen, the police are slowly inching forward subtly here, just pushing them back slowly. even as this continues. try, as dan noyes who s on the ground there describes, trying to get them to disperse or at least take them out of certain interactions so they no longer control the interactions, the protesters, that is. but they re slowly pushing them, pushing them back inch by inch. but the protester are not, as dan pointed out on the scene, not backing down. when we get dan back, i d be curious to ask him what are some of the words that he had heard of that were hurled in both drerksz. directions. one of the things he talked about as the protesters took a knee a la colin kaepernick many years ago, they started shouting i can t breathe which is, of course, a direct reference to s he couldn t breathe. larry beil is watching this as well. larry? yeah. i just wanted to note the symbolism involved here with the colin kaepernick protest of several years ago. protesting exactly what we just saw a few days ago in minneapolis. there was a lot of confusion at this time because he initially sat down and then after talking with some friends in the military, decided taking a knee was the more appropriate act. and this is exactly the kind of situation that kaepernick was trying to bring into focus. and put a spotlighted on. so there s a great deal of symbolism with protesters now doing what kaep did. he p he s been very active on social media as well throughout the years but more so in the past few days trying to make the point once again that this is what i was protesting about. you can make the case that we have not made a lot of progress in the years that have passed. good point, larry. thank you. let s turn our attention now to mike lowe from the santa clara police department. mike, are you there? mike, can you hear us? yes, can you hear me? yes, mike. thanks for coming on. mike, as you watch what s transpiring, tell me what you re ragy is by san jose police as they trying to move these protesters around. actually, i m with the sheriff s office. my apologies. no worries. we got a call from highway patrol when the protesters were gathering on highway 101. so we mobilized our resources and have dispatched our deputies out on patrol to assist the san jose police department and the california highway patrol. so our main focus right now is just making sure everyone stays say we understand people are frustrated. we do want people to exercise their first amendment rights, but to do so peacefully. and ultimately we want everyone to be safe. based on what you ve seen, sergeant lowe, are the protesters in that very front line in that direct standoff with officers doing what you consider safe actio? i am not in a position right now to be right therefrt line ho do know that it s a very fluid and rappid situation. we have our deputies deployed to numerous locations across san jose permanent near t san jose, primarily near san jose. this is a difficult situation for police to keep order but at the same time allow people to express themselves and their anger and fruchgs ovstration ov happened in minneapolis. what is the challenge for the police officers on these lines to keep control and yet not escalate this situation? very difficult, is it not? very difficult, very challenging. and i think as law enforcement officers part of our job is to show that tremendous restraint who must these types of situations where things are very tense, very action packed right now with a lot of things going on. but we have to remain calm and do with a we can to just make sure everyone remains safe. we do have our crowd control unit mobilized what is the special training for crowd control unit. what is that unit surprised of? that s interesting. the unit is comprised of deputies, sergeants and staff within the sheriff s office. they train specifically to handle large crowds, whether it s at a ball game or sporting event or any sort of large event like this. but any time you have something like this, we want to make sure people stay safe and remain peaceful. i have one question about the motorcycles that we see. is that a modern-day, you know, for a long time crowd control, police departmts ud officers on horseback, because it s intimidating and well above the crowd. is this a modern-day version of that? we do have motor have motor. i m not sure if our sheriff s office are on steed right now. they re much easier to get around if they need to access an area where a vehicle or standard patrol car couldn t get to. our motorcycles are able to access a location much quicker. just a line right in front, behind the first line of police officers on foot. we re looking at a line of motorcycle officers right behind them. very interesting to see that tactic. sergeant low,e. i m wondering about your training. i m imagining it s similar to police on the front line. at what level do they respond. with rubber bullets. tell me about the actions and reactions that is deemed appropriate as you ve been taught? i think like any law enforcement agency, we have our use of force policies and use of force continuum. however, in times like this, i
novartis thanks the heroic healthcare workers fighting covid-19. tonight, as we come on the air in the west, the tens of thousands in the streets. from new york city to washington, d.c., to los angeles, and in so many communities across this nation. here in new york city, thousands on the march. many believed to be headed to gracie mansion, the mayor s residence. it comes after the city imposed that new 8:00 p.m. curfew starting tonight, for the rest of the week. from chicago, to los angeles, where at this hour tens of thousands are in the streets there, part of multiple marches. ndrcr e ite house. no is believed, they are and again today, most of the protests have been peaceful. but authorities are prepared for what could come after nightfall. growing concern now on the eighth day of protests after widespread destruction in new york city overnight. stores destroyed. the famed macy s, damage at rockefeller center. tonight, curfews in place across many major cities. hundreds of arrests. and this evening, authorities now investigating video in new york city showing a car slamming into a police officer. in the last 24 hours, at least five officers shot across the country, including one in las vegas in critical condition. also tonight, president trump and the backlash. protesters of all backgrounds lining the streets in washington as his motorcade passed by today. tonight, the outrage 24 hours after peaceful demonstrators were hit with flashbangs to clear the way for th president s walk from the white house to the historic st. john s church, holding a bible in a photo op. asked if the bible was his, he said it s a bible. tonight, church leaders expressing outrage. leaders in both parties outraged too. and what former president george w. bush said late today. the massive crowds gathering in houston tonight, george floyd s hometown. thousands gathering to honor him. the mother of his 6-year-old daughter speaking out. and there is news tonight on the murder investigation. will other officers be charged? if so, when? what authorities are now saying. a tale of two images. the president, and the former vice president who wants to replace him. tonight, joe biden and his speech today. and his promise to americans amid so much pain. and the developing headline from atlanta as we come on. six officers now facing charges accused of excessive force on two students pulled from their car. good evening. it s great to have you with us on a tuesday night. as we come on the air tonight, another extraordinary scene unfolding in cities across the country. protests under way. this is the eighth night of protests. demonstrators demanding justice and change in the country after the death of george floyd. the protests peaceful today, but there is concern with nightfall apprch thousands in the streets in new york city. several marches, one massive group, it s believed, headed to the mayor s residence. and the 8:00 p.m. curfew in place. it s quickly approaching after last night s 11:00 p.m. curfew was hardly effective. it s believed tens of thousands are on the march in los angeles. several different locations. in washington, d.c., it s believed thousands are headed towards the lincoln memorial. and a massive rally in houston, george floyd s hometown. and all of this comes as authorities brace for the night ahead. in new york city last night, the storefronts and landmarks destroyed. the famed macy s department store. the curfew, as i mentioned, moved up. six police officers shot last night. and tensions high in washington, d.c., after park police cleared the peaceful protesters with flashbangs. one striking a cameraman from australian tv, the image fed live back to australia. broadcasters there stunned. minutes after that scene, the president walking through the park to st. john s church to hold up a bible. asked if it was his, he said it s a bible. tonight, the fallout from that moment. and the competing images. the peaceful protests across the country, and the concerns about what was seen after the sun went down. here s stephanie ramos. reporter: today, the images of protest from across the country just hours before new curfews go into effect. from san francisco, to orlando, to new york city, thousands marching in protest with a message of peace. we are not looking to agitate, or to loot, or destroy anything. we are trying to make the community unified and by doing that, it s not unifying the community, it s breaking it apart. reporter: the city now moving up its curfew to 8:00 p.m. tonight after a fourth night of looting. peaceful demonstration by day replaced with a vicious cycle of violence overnight. windows smashed, stores ransacked, from the macy s flagship store to rockefeller center. the sun has gone down here in new york clearly different groups that are out here facing off with police, shattering windows on fifth avenue. the governor today blasting the mayor and police department. and the police in new york city were not effective at doing their job last night. period. reporter: hundreds of arrests, most after curfew. police investigating this video showing a car slamming into an officer in a hit and run in the bronx. that officer in serious condition. it appears to be quite purposeful. that is unacceptable. reporter: overnight, officers shot during violent protests. in las vegas, one in grave condition. another four officers were shot in st. louis. thank god they re alive, they re alive. can we make some sense out of this? reporter: across the country police tactics under scrutiny. l.a. s police chief sparking outrage after suggesting looters were as responsible for george floyd s death as those fired police officers. we didn t have people mourning the death of this man, george floyd. we had people capitalizing. his death is on their hands as much as it is those officers. reporter: the chief later apologizing, calling his own words terribly offensive. today l.a. officers kneeling with protesters at a faith-based march. in new york, the police chief also taking a knee. let new york show the country how this is done. reporter: at times police torn between patrol and protest. this officer in d.c. seen trying to kneel only to be repeedly pulled to his feet by his fellow officers. in detroit, 16-year-old organizer stefan perez has been he safe.s fellow demonstrators. they don t got rubber bullets. they don t got tear gas. they re not dead. reporter: the mayor calling to thank him. i saw your leadership. i have tears in my eyes. you are everything that is special about the city of detroit. we re going to fight this injustice because of people like you. that young protester telling others to go home. stephanie, we see the large crowd behind you. we also know the curfew goes into effect a short time from now, 8:00 p.m. but a lot of protesters said they re not concerned about that. reporter: that s absolutely right. thousands are marching across the streets of new york city. you can see them here. it will be very difficult to enforce the new curfew. this group, we ve been following them for several blocks. they just got started a little while ago. stephanie, thank you. now to the fallout from the president s visit to st. john s episcopal church just after we were on the air last night. the police firing flashbangs, smoke canisters, pepper balls at peaceful demonstrators, apparently to clear the way for the president. we ve learned it was attorney general william barr who gave the order. tonight, church leaders are expressing outrage, as well as leaders in both parties. here s jonathan karl. reporter: as president trump rode through washington today, citizens, including families with homemade signs, jeered the presidential limousine. [ booing ] we were in the motorcade watching the people. their signs, withering. are you a moral monster? i can t breathe. today, outrage is growing over the forceful removal of peaceful protesters to clear the way for the president to hold a photo op at st. john s church. it all began shortly after 6:00 p.m., the hour before washington s curfew took effect. the protesters had gathered just a block from the white house gate. as the president prepared to speak in the rose garden, our camera spotted attorney general bill barr surveying the scene. abc news has learned the attorney general then gave the order to remove the protesters using force. and so it began, continuing even as the president was saying these words. i am your president of law and order and an ally of all peaceful protesters. reporter: you could hear the explosions from the rose garden. the police using flashbang, smoke canisters, and pepper balls to force the protesters away. among those roughed up, an australian tv crew. the photographer hit in the face. his colleague hit with a baton as she tried to flee. after he was done speaking, the president, accompanied by top advisers, walked to st. john church, crossing the street where the protesters had gathered less than an hour earlier. in front of the church, the president held up a bible. is that your bible? it s a bible. reporter: he summoned his advisers to pose for a photo before heading back to the white house. among the first to express outrage, the bishop of washington. the spiritual leader of episcopalians in the nation s capital, including the parishioners at st. john s. he is not entitled to use the spiritual symbolism of our sacred spaces and our sacred texts to promote or to justify a completely entire an entirely different message. reporter: the condemnation stretched across the political spectrum, including prominent republicans. if your question is, should you use tear gas to clear a path so the president can go have a photo op, the answer is no. reporter: republican senator ben sasse said, quote, i m against clearing out a peaceful protest for a photo op that treats the word of god as a political prop. reporter: even pat robertson, prominent televangelist and an ardent supporter of president trump, had harsh words for the president. it seems like now is the time to say, i understand your pain. i want to comfort you, i think it s time we love each other. but the president took a different course. reporter: robertson lambasted the president for threatening to move military troops into american cities unless the nation s governors control the violence. as a matter of fact he spoke of them as being jerks. you just don t do that, mr. president. it isn t cool. jon, i know you were in the motorcade witnessing the protesters and their signs. the president, though, unwavering on this tonight. and a former president now weighing in? reporter: former president george w. bush with a powerful statement that condemns the brutal suffocation of it says many doubt the justice of our country, and with good reason. he does not mention president trump by name, but he does express support for the protesters. saying, those who set out to silence those voices do not understand the meaning of america, or how it becomes a better place. that s president george w. bush tonight. david? jon, thanks. there are massive gatherings tonight in houston as well. tens of thousands there. george floyd died in his adopted city of minneapolis, but he grew up in houston. among those gathering today, the mayor and chief of police. marcus moore is there tonight. reporter: in houston, a sea of humanity. a wave of emotion. i can t breathe! reporter: hope that the healing can begin. we want justice for floyd. and i m a black mother and i heard his cry and it hurt me to my heart. reporter: tens of thousands marching across the city in memory of george floyd. i just feel like there s something powerful going on right now. something that should have been done a long time ago. the crowd has doubled in size at least, since i last talked to you. reporter: the march, supported by city officials and organized with help from local rappers bun b and trae tha truth. truth, a longtime friend of floyd. it s a beautiful moment. we re making george proud. this is george s family here, we re making them proud to show how many people love george. reporter: this scene coming a day after floyd s brother terrence visited the minneapolis intersection where george floyd took his last breath. i need you and pops to watch over me. reporter: floyd died may 25th. he d worked in minnesota as a security guard. but he was a child of houston s third ward, where a new mural now bears his image and reads, forever breathing in our hearts. he was a star tight end on the yates high school football team. and he was a father to 6-year-old gianna. i want justice for him because he was good. and this is the proof that he was a good man. reporter: there are services this week in minneapolis and north carolina. floyd s funeral is set for tuesday here in houston. the family s attorney says vice president joe biden is expected to attend. david? marcus, thank you. joe biden, they re saying, expected to attend. no formal confirmation of that yet. but the former vice president speaking out today about president trump, the scene in front of st. john s church. and biden s own promise to americans in this time. here s mary bruce. reporter: tonight, the tale of two leaders. the president and the man who wants to replace him. president trump holding that bible. joe biden visiting a church. tonight, biden taking on the president. the country is crying out for leadership. leadership that can recognize pain and deep grief of communities that have had a knee on their neck for a long time. reporter: biden calling on leaders to confront systemic racism. and blasting trump for that bible photo op. i just wish he opened it once in a while instead of brandishing it. if he opened it, he could have learned something. reporter: biden speaking of his own loss, a parent losing a son. i know what it means to have that black hole in your chest where your grief is being sucked into it. reporter: tonight, biden is calling on congress to ban choke holds and vowing to establish a national police oversight commission. donald trump has turned this country into a battlefield driven by old resentments and fresh fears. he thinks division helps him. his narcissism has become more important than the nation s well-being that he leads. reporter: and biden s promise, less than six months from the election. i promise you this, i won t traffic in fear and division. i won t fan the flames of hate. i ll seek to heal the racial wounds that have long plagued our country, not use them for political gain. reporter: this was biden s first public address in months. but as the country opens up, we can expect to see more of biden out on the trail. especially as he looks to draw the sharp contrast with president trump. his campaign is defending the decision to lay low the past few weeks. they say just look at the poll numbers, showing biden on the rise. mary, thank you. we re also following a developing headline out of atlanta tonight. six atlanta police officers have been charged for using excessive force against two college students. you will remember the video showing officers dragging them from their car and using tasers on them. the mayor in atlanta, outraged. here s steve osunsami. reporter: the six officers accused of using excessive force have until friday to turn themselves in. in the middle of the chaos that was tearing through downtown atlanta saturday night. okay, okay, okay! reporter: and in pictures now viewed across the world, the officers are seen shooting a stun gun at two coll and dragging them out of a car. messiah young and taniah pilgrim were out after the new curfew, explaining that they were just getting something to eat when they got stuck in traffic during a protest. i actually thought both me and messiah were going to die, like, the way everything happened so fast, there was no telling what could happen in the next moment. this just needs to cease. reporter: young was initially charged with trying to elude police officers, charges that were dropped by the mayor. two officers have already been fired. david? 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tonight, new reporting on tonight, breaking news as we come on the air in the west. we have images as a man opens fire on a california police station. a deputy shot in the face. and new reporting at this hour on the former police officer, derek chauvin, charged in the murder of george floyd. prosecutors confirming chauvin was negotiating a guilty plea to local and federal charges, so, what changed? as george floyd s brother appears before congress today, his emotional plea, saying his brother did not deserve to die over $20. and what he said when asked if he believed his brother s killing was premeditated. also tonight, as we come on the air, the urgent manhunt for a gunman who open fird on a police station. a deputy wounded, shot in the face. a second person found shot to death nearby. investigators do believe the shootings are connected. residents ordered to shelter in place. and what authorities have just revealed tonight. after military leaders said the time has come to discuss changing names of u.s. military bases named after confederate leaders, tonight, president trump saying this will not happen, saying they are part of a great american heritage. and nascar late today revealing they are now banning the confederate flag. the coronavirus here in the u.s. alarming news tonight involving the spike in cases right now across more than 20 states. some hospitals told to enact emergency plans. and some authorities now talking about a potential for a stay at home order again. and the race for a vaccine tonight. tens of thousands of americans now volunteering to be injected with experimental vaccines. so, what could this mean about timing for a vaccine here in the u.s.? the voting chaos in georgia overnight. voters in lines well after sundown. some in line for six hours or more. what caused this and what does it mean with the presidential election just five months away? and there is breaking news tonight in the case of those two missing siblings. the discovery on that property and what their heartbroken grandparents are now saying. and we pay tribute tonight to a renowned debate coach, eight decades at texas southern university. tonight, right here, his students on what he would expect from them in this moment. good evening and it s great to have you with us here on a wednesday night. we are back from houston tonight, where thousands came from all over to pay their respects to george floyd, his family. remembering him as a gentle man, a loving father, an imperfect man, but saying his name will now stand for the push for change, for justice. and tonight, what we did not know about the officer with his knee to floyd s neck, charged with murder now. how close was he to a plea deal, and why did it fall apart? and on capitol hill today, one of george floyd s brothers telling lawmakers, enough is enough. pleading with them to stop the pain of police brutality. breaking down, asking, what was his brother s life worth? we have learned prosecutors and that former officer, derek chauvin, were closing in on a deal on state murder and federal civil rights charges until the day before his arrest. chauvin now faces up to 40 years behind bars if convicted on all charges. and tonight, as we come on the air, an urgent hunt now for a man who opened fire on a police station. a deputy wounded, shot in the face. another person found shot dead nearby. and we have it all covered for you. we re going to begin with abc s alex perez in minneapolis again tonight. reporter: tonight, the stunning revelation. as prosecutors mulled charges against fired minneapolis police officer derek chauvin, he was angling for a deal to plead guilty on federal civil rights charges and to murdering george floyd. as prosecutors were walking up to the podium on may 28th, the deal had just fallen apart. we thought we would have another development that i could tell you about. unfortunately, we don t at this point. reporter: chauvin charged with third degree murder the next day, upgraded to second degree the following week. mr. floyd, what do you hope to tell the committee today? justice for george. reporter: word of those negotiations coming as george floyd s brother emotionally testified before lawmakers on capitol hill. you don t do that to a human being. you don t even do that to an animal. his life mattered. all our lives matter. black lives matter. i just wish wish i could get him back. those officers, they get to live. for him to do something like that, it had to be premeditated and he wanted to do that. and intentional? yes, sir. reporter: and tonight, those chants on the streets turning into demands for reform. minneapolis police chief medaria arradondo, faced with the possibility his department could be disbanded, unveiling his own plans for change today, revealing the department will no longer negotiate their current contract with the police union and new, real-time technology to track cops accused of misconduct and intervene. chauvin had 18 complaints against him, but was only disciplined twice. under these new rules, what would have happened to someone like chauvin, who had all these complaints? we could have intervened much earlier. if there were problematic behaviors brought to our attention right away, we could have made those appropriate measures. reporter: back on capitol hill, george floyd s brother demanding more accountability for officers before anyone else is killed. george wasn t hurting anyone that day. he didn t deserve to die over $20. i m asking you, is that what a black man is worth? $20? this is 2020. enough is enough. powerful testimony. we hear the demonstrators behind you there in minneapolis tonight, alex. and we also know there s late word that one of the other officers who was charged in this case, thomas lane, we remember, he was on his fourth shift as an officer that night, a rookie, there s news on him this evening? reporter: well, david, according to jail records, former officer thomas lane was released from jail just a short time ago, late this afternoon. he posted $750,000 bail and has been released. you ll remember that s the officer who in court shifted blame towards the veteran officer on the scene that night, derek chauvin. now, as for the changes here at the minneapolis police department, the chief tells me, today was just the beginning. he expects to make several announcements in the weeks ahead. david? all right, alex perez leading us off again tonight. alex, thank you. and as i mentioned at the top tonight, there is an urgent hunt at this hour for a gunman who fired on a police station in paso robles, california, shooting a deputy in the face. and then, a body found a mile away, someone shot dead. authorities do believe it s related. that community put on lockdown. and abc s will carr is in california. reporter: tonight, police are on the hunt for an active shooter wanted for attacking a police station in california. shots northeast of the building. reporter: authorities say this is the shooter, with that long, curly hair and dark beard. we feel that this was an ambush, that he planned it. reporter: the gunfire erupted early this morning, around 3:15, in downtown paso robles. the pd is advising they can hear gunfire coming from the east side of their station. reporter: the gunman shot and wounded a sheriff s deputy in front of the station. taking gunfire. at the dmv! copy. taking gunfire on ninth street at the dmv. keeps shooting at us! gunfire is coming from a southerly direction north of the dmv. reporter: that deputy is in serious but stable condition. later, around 7:00 a.m., police discovered the body of a man near an amtrak station less than a mile away from the police department. the victim was shot in the head from close range and investigators believe this homicide is connected to the shooting this morning. within the past couple of minutes, authorities released a picture of the gunman. they say, without a doubt, he set out to kill police officers and this is the third time that members of law enforcement have been ambushed here in california in just the past couple of weeks. david? the scene playing out in paso robles, california, tonight. will, thank you. we have been reporting here on the growing pressure across this country from demonstrators and supporters to take down confederate symbols, and tonight, late word nascar is taking action, banning the confederate flag at all nascar events. driver bubba wallace wearing a t-shirt, saying, i can t breathe, black lives matter in recent days. u.s. military leaders have expressed a willingness to discuss renaming bases named after confederate generals. but tonight, president trump says that won t happen, saying they are part of a great american heritage. here s our chief white house correspondent jonathan karl. reporter: president trump today firmly shot down the idea of changing the names of military bases named after confederate generals, tweeting, quote, my administration will not even consider the renaming of these magnificent and fabled military installations. in case anybody missed his tweets, he dispatched his press secretary to read his words aloud. these monumental and very powerful bases have become part of a great american heritage and a history of winning, victory and freedom. reporter: it comes just after the army announced, the secretary of defense and the secretary of the army are open to a bipartisan discussion on the topic. around the country, signs of the confederacy are coming down. now nascar is announcing a ban on confederate flags at all events. tonight, racing star bubba wallace s car will bear the words black lives matter. there are ten u.s. army bases named after confederate soldiers. among those calling for that to change is retired general david petraeus, who wrote in the atlantic of the, quote, irony of training at bases named for those who took up arms against the united states and for the right to enslave others. he added, we do not live in a country to which braxton bragg, henry l. benning or robert e. lee can serve as an inspiration. acknowledging this fact is imperative. today, the president wouldn t answer questions on his decision. while the white house makes an impassioned defense of bases named for pro-slavery confederate soldiers, the president has yet to propose any specific reforms of police practices in the wake of george floyd s death. on capitol hill, republicans have tasked the only african-american republican senator to take the lead in coming up with a plan. we should all want to follow the lead as it relates, to, a, making sure we get something accomplished, and not just having pieces of legislation they are for show. reporter: the white house press secretary said today the president is working, quote, quietly and diligently, to come up with a plan to address the concerns of the protesters, but we have heard nothing specific. so far, all we have heard is what he opposes. we are told the president opposes the idea of limiting the immunity now enjoyed by most police officers. that s an idea that democrats and some republicans say would make it easier to hold the police accountable for their actions. david? jon karl live at the white house. jon, thank you. i want to get right to abc s martha raddatz tonight, because martha, the army had said the defense secretary was, in fact, open to discussing renaming military bases named after confederate generals, but you heard what the president said today, essentially saying this won t happen. so, where does it stand tonight? reporter: well, david, the decision is technically up to an assistant secretary of the army, but given what trump has said, that would likely be professional suicide. but as you know, it was just last week that secretary of defense mark esper spoke out publicly against the president s threat to use active duty military to quell protests and there has also been a growing chorus of retired military officers blasting trump s decision-making, so, you can t rule out the base names changing, but for now, that seems unlikely, david. all right, martha, our thanks to you, as well. now, the news this evening on the coronavirus. the number of cases spiking in several states across this country. and there s news tonight on a potential vaccine. tens of thousands of americans volunteering to get injected with potential vaccines on the horizon. so, what could this mean for any timeline for the rest of the country? here s matt gutman on that. reporter: tonight, the u.s. government saying tens of thousands of volunteers will soon receive injections with one of three of experimental vaccines. those injections are part of third phase of vaccine trials, the stage before possible approval. and dr. anthony fauci now saying there are no guarantees, but he s cautiously optimistic about at least one of them working. we could have a vaccine either by the end of this calendar year or in the first few months of 2021. reporter: moderna beginning phase three trials in july, followed by the university of oxford and astra-zeneca s vaccine in august and johnson & johnson in september. the goal, to test their vaccine s safety and effectiveness. that, as at least 20 states plus puerto rico seeing increases in new cases and eight states reporting rising hospitalizations. in texas, hospitalizations jumped 40% since memorial day. officials there say it s too early to tell if that s because of the reopening, the protests or both. and in arizona, some experts say it might be time for another stay at home order. one doctor telling us they re maxing out of icu beds. reporter: david, the goal of a phase three trial is to determine how well a vaccine works. that s why they re casting an enormously wide net, up to 90,000 volunteers from all walks of life. half of them will be given a placebo, the other half, the actual vaccine. and it will later be determined who came down with coronavirus and how many of them show the presence of antibodies. david? and we know you ll stay on this. matt gutman, our thanks to you again tonight, as well. we re also following that developing headline in the case of two missing siblings from idaho. their step-father was in court today facing charges now after human remains were found on his property. and what the children s heartbroken grandparents said late today. here s marcus moore. reporter: tonight, the grandparents of two idaho children, missing since september, say their bodies have been found. but police not confirming they are the remains of 17-year-old tylee ryan and her brother, 7-year-old j.j. vallow, discovered during a search at chad daybell s home, their mother s new husband. we are aware that those remains are the remains of children. reporter: daybell appearing today before a judge today via zoom, facing two felony counts of destruction, alteration or concealment of evidence. mr. daybell, do you understand the allegations on both counts that have been brought against you? i do. reporter: mom lori vallow already behind bars after refusing to tell police where the kids were. lori? can you tell me where your kids are? reporter: the couple under a cloud of suspicion for months after a string of deaths in the family. marrying in hawaii weeks after daybell s first wife died. vallow s husband killed last summer by her brother, who later died himself. friends and family insisting lori changed after meeting daybell, a religious author. after lori s arrest, daybell telling us the kids were safe. is there anything that you would like to say to people at all who are, number one, concerned about the kids or concerned about you and your wife, anything at all you want to say to them? just grateful for any support. reporter: tonight, j.j. and tylee s family saying, we are filled with unfathomable sadness that these two bright stars were stolen from us, and only hope that they died without pain or suffering. lori vallow has pleaded not guilty to child abandonment. meantime, she and her husband are both being held on $1 million bail and, david, daybell is due back in court in july. marcus, thank you. when we come back tonight, the voting chaos in georgia overnight. what does this mean with the presidential election five months away now? 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i think that dr. freeman, because he has always encouraged us to not only be articulate, but vocalize our plight in a way in which we can have the best outcome for ourselves. meaning that he s always pushed us to do our best. it s in our motto, we all know what we do, we do well, what we don t do well, we don t do it at all. reporter: the faces that you see, black, white, latino, from every race, every background, every story, part of these protests. do you sense it s a turning point? absolutely do. reporter: what s your message to the country right now? that there s always hope. that you can always be better. that you don t have to settle. i think the message would be, there s power in your voice. you should definitely use it. definitely. reporter: well, i would say to your debate team, keep winning. we ll try. thank you. keep winning. vowing to carry the torch. it s about more than winning, he would say, and they have already made dr. freeman proud. thank you for watching here tonight. i m david muir. from all of us here at abc news, have a good evening. good night. a silicon valley lab owner is under arrest. i ll explain. no one can say it won t happen again. it s just not possible. the man in charge of the alameda police department speaks only with abc7 news and our i-team. hear his take on the officers who arrested a black man for dancing in the streets. reporter: restaurants are reimagining opening. it s very upsetting and angering to see people like this individual taking advantage of what is happening in our community. new at 6:00, the first case by the u.s. department of justice related to securities fraud involves a silicon valley lab owner.
made missiles and the fleet s headquarters in sebastopol was struck by missiles last year, the repeated humiliations pushing russian ships further and further away from ukraine and eventually leading to the dismissal of russia s navy chief in march, not so long ago, russian state media would celebrate the navy s single aircraft carrier, the admiral, cuz nets off the jewel in the crown. but the ship has long been plagued by mechanical problems and has been in dark for years and more months, some western analysts predict it will never set sail again despite putin s glorification of russia s naval prowess, many of its warships here are vulnerable to both air and sea attacks and lack the technology to compete with western navies. or even cheap maritime drones made and ukraine an air in the ukrainian say that while the russians might be gaining ground in other areas, they feel that they ve really hurt. moscow is black sea fleet and essentially rendered it ineffective and the ukrainian say they will continue to develop those sea drones to hurt vladimir putin s naval forces even more. aaron. all right. thank you very much tonight and thanks so much to all all of you. it s time now for ac30, 60 tonight on through 60, the former president goes to washington to formalize his almost total takeover of the republican party. what he told lawmakers behind and closed doors when it signals about his plans, if we elect it. also time, cnn s donie o sullivan and talking with trump s supporters about what they think will happen to the country if he loses and to appeal its are prize-winning historian. but what she thinks might happen if you wins. also breaking news on supreme court justice clarence thomas already under scrutiny for setting millions of dollars in gifts and travel over the years. now, the senate judiciary committee reveals three more trips he took did not disclose. good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin tonight. keep them honest with the former president s de in washington with his party, and that use the possessive to describe the republican senators and house members he met with today in separate closed-door sessions, each just steps from the capital is no accident because if he s done nothing else over the last three-and-a-half years. of insurrection and search warrants and indictments and trials and felony convictions. it has been to remake the party of ronald reagan in his own image at the house meeting, he made a point of reminding members that nearly every republican who voted to impeach him as either been voted out of office or retired? not that by this point, there s survivors really needed reminding listen to speaker of the house mike johnson was basking in the afterglow and majority whip tom emmer, a self-proclaimed tough on crime law maker, attacking the criminal justice system he said very complimentary things about all of us we had sustained applause. he said, i m doing a very good job. i mean, we re grateful for that. i m going to add anybody who thought that this president was going to be down after the sham trial after that crooked trial that we saw in new york i think again more than more than one member of congress and the house meeting told cnn that the former president has spent most of his time airing grievances about his felony conviction. afterwards that a house judiciary committee hearing democratic members were all too happy to bring it up. just a show of hands for anyone in the room who hung out with a felon today hey, guys. i everyone get your hands up i want to begin by quoting the jury in the manhattan hush money payment trial guilty guilty guilty. guilty now, it s remarkable because whatever you think it congressional decorum or for that matter, x presidential criminality. this is where we are, but we are a convicted felon leads the self-proclaimed party of law and order in his post-conviction visit, just a few blocks away from the place that his supporters attacked into filed is just another headline. and so is what one lawmaker in the rooms, as he told house members about former democratic house speaker nancy pelosi, after calling one of his daughters a quote, wacko he reportedly claimed that one of her daughters wants told him that he and speaker pelosi would have had a quote, great romance in another life. daughter christine, today responded tweeting quote, speaking for all four pelosi daughters, this is ally he also called milwaukee side of the republican national convention, quote, horrible, according to a source in the room, another lawmaker later saying he was only talking about crime. all from a single meeting. at this other meeting, his republic republican senator is also close to the capital. he spoke with minority leader mitch mcconnell for the first time since december 2020. the photo prompting this reaction from liz cheney, the staunchly conservative former republican congresswoman, who was drummed out while first out of the party leadership and then out of office for co-chair and the january 6 committee she tweeted and quoted words mitch mcconnell made on the senate floor in february 13, 2021. cheney wrote, mitch mcconnell knows trump provoked the violent attack and our capital, and then quote watch television happily unquote as his mob brutally beat police officers and hunted the vice president he knows trump reviews for hours to tell his mob to leave and quote, even then with police officers bleeding, he kept repeating his election leinz and praising the criminals she went on to say again, quoting mcconnell, he knows that trump committed a quote disgraceful dereliction of duty unquote, and is a danger to our republic here are some more of what mcconnell said on that day there s no question nod. their president trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day those are tough words for mitch mcconnell, but just 12 days later, after he said that on the 25th, senator mcconnell, eight, those words telling fox is brett baer, he would support the man he so recently criticized if he s nominated in 2024 talk, it seems is cheap. join his now with more cnn s meloni s and ohno. what else went on behind closed doors today with trump will anderson heading into these meetings, lawmakers are really hopeful that trump was going to be talking about a campaign strategy or laying out his vision for a policy agenda. and now there was some of that. one of the more substantive moments was on trump brought up the topic of abortion and any counseled republicans about how he thinks they should talk about this issue. and he said they shouldn t be afraid of it. they should frame it as a state s issue. and you also encouraged republicans to voice support for exceptions not come across as too extreme on the issue, but for the most part, according to all the lawmakers that i spoke to, these meetings were more of an airing of grievance it says it was a gripe session at particularly in the house meeting this morning, i m told that trump, of course, brought up the legal challenges against them, calling all the charges against him, quote, bogus he also referred for to the department of justice as quote, dirty, no-good according to some of the lawmakers that i talked to, he even at one point, complained about taylor swift, were endorsing his rival president joe biden. and he also gloated about how most of the house republicans who voted to impeach him over the january 6 insurrection are no lines hunger in congress. so it was very wide ranging speech, very freewheeling that member ce felt more like a pep rally or even a roast than a serious policy discussion. morning and taylor swift has not endorsed joe biden. do you have any more details on the trump mcconnell counter well, with trump and mcconnell, there was a very serious effort. i m told by both parties he s to really bury the hatchet after years of feuding and years of frost newness right before the meeting, trump and mcconnell shook hands, which was captured on a phone photograph during the meeting. trump credited mcconnell with helping to elect more republican senators, and then after the meeting, mcconnell praised trump and said the mean eating was very, very positive. so just a remarkable inflection point. i think anderson, we re going to look back on this moment similar to kevin mccarthy trekking down to mar-a-lago in the weeks after january 6 and really just captures how much the party, including some of trump s former critics like mcconnell, have really fallen in line in the years after january 6 and despite these criminal convictions, anderson, millions and thanks so much, jonasson. i was new york democratic congressman daniel goldman, congressman. any surprises for you today in the visit by trump not really. he didn t come to the capital, which was good good thing because this is where he fomented a massive riot and insurrection to try to keep him installed in office. he didn t talk much about policy because he doesn t really care much about policy. what he cares about is himself and what he cares about is his conviction 34 times for being a felon and what he cares about her as three other cases and getting revenge. and he wants to do that by tearing down our democracy and what he was effectively doing today is greases the wheels, trying to play nice with republicans who support he needs in order to become president. so that he can take his fat let s just authoritarian views into office if he were to win. and it is just a very telling i think that mitch mcconnell has now bowed down to the ring of donald trump someone who, you quoted what he said on january 25, where he helped donald trump responsible for the january 6 riot. and has resisted donald trump. but now he has clearly demonstrated graded that donald trump owns the republican party. there is no other faction of the republican party that has any influence other than donald trump his maga supporters, obviously, none of us, there s privilege privy to the inner thoughts and mitch mcconnell. but why do you think center mcconnell made this choice? i mean, after, you know the strong comments he made criticizing trump theta, the racist attacks trump made against me kennels own wife. i mean, what is mitch mcconnell get out of this anderson, what do any of these people who have i know good mccaul s running. i mean, it he could he could go out on i d like liz cheney, who at least, has taken a very strong stand ultimately mixed for the same reason since that mitch mcconnell refuse to give merrick garland a vote for the supreme court and then rammed any amy coney barrett through under the same circumstances, two weeks before the election? that s what connell has a very focused and narrowly tailored view of what he wants to accomplish. and at the end of the day i m sure mitch mcconnell views donald trump as the only possibility to get these type of conservative judges who have now overturned roe v. wade paid back into more into the our judiciary and into the supreme court and push forward a clearly minority favored agenda that mitch mcconnell has been pushing for decades. it was seeing melodies and i was reporting is that trump was telling lawmakers counseling them on how to run about and talk about abortion and to talk about states rights and to not seem too extreme do you have any belief that that s how he would be if he got into office? absolutely none. donald trump does not care. donald trump used to be pro-choice. he used to be a democrat. now, he s out there promoting and celebrating his own work and getting roe versus wade overturned he will do whatever he needs to do to secure the support for his fascist anti-democratic attacks on the rule of law to undermine our democratic institutions. and if that means that he ll give over supreme court nominations to mitch mcconnell or someone else on the far right who wants to roll back our individual freedoms, even more than the supreme court has done. he will do that in a minute. and if there here s a national abortion ban that the republicans pass donald trump will sign that in two seconds. do not believe donald trump whenever he says that he will stand up for abortion rights, he has completely flip-flopped in his career. he will do whatever benefits himself. speaker johnson was asked yesterday, the former president attempt the outcome of the election. i just want to play that for years really for the first time republican house and senate meeting with him since the january 6 attack on the capitol are you committed or have you spoken to him about basically not not doing anything like that again, in committing to respecting the sort of american tradition of peaceful transfer of course, he respects that and we all do and we ve all talked about it at nauseum i mean i mean yeah. i mean, i can anyone say with a straight face is donald trump respects the peaceful transfer of power that i want you to take that clip and run it over and over and over. that is everything you need to know. oh about mike johnson and the maga republican party. they will look you in the eye and they will lie directly to your face over and over and over. there is no question that donald trump does not respect the peaceful transfer of power he has made it a litmus test for his vice president that whoever that will be willing not accept the results. and that s why you have every single vice presidential candidates. so far refusing to concede or acknowledged that they will accept them the results. donald trump, it will not accept the peaceful a trap power. you don t have to ask me or trust me, he already did it so for speaker johnson to look in the camera and to say that of course he respects the peaceful transfer of power. put that on every bulletin board around the country. it is total bogus and it shows you what knowing liars the republicans are. congressman, i appreciate your time. thank you thank you. president biden met today with ukraine s president zelenskyy of the g7 summit in italy. the two signing a new tenure security agreement at the press conference afterwards, frozen biden spoke briefly when asked about his son, hunter i m extremely proud of my son hunter. he is overcome and addiction. he is he s one of the brightest, most decent man i know and i am satisfied that i m not going to do anything. i sat i said i advise by the jury decision. i will do that no i m not pardon him the present-day also ruled out commuting his one-sentence seen as mj lee is traveling with the president joins us now from from very italy. so mj, earlier in the week, the white house appeared to leave open the possibility of a commutation or that flee not commenting at essentially overturning the sentence, not a conviction. what specifically did the president say about that yeah. when the president was walking away from that press conference, some reporters yell loud. would you commute your sons sentence and he answered directly. he said no that was after he had more broadly addressed the conviction of his son, hunter, as you just play they re standing by his son, standing by the judicial system, and also reiterating his previously stated position pardoning his son. he said, i will not pardon him. anderson white house officials had suspected that it was likely he would get asked about the hunter issue at this news conference, given that it happened just two days ago, he had not publicly commented on in yet on it yeah they knew that the specific issue of the commutation was one that could come up if you ll recall yesterday, white house press secretary karine jean-pierre was asked by a reporter whether she would rule out that possibility and she wouldn t say yes or no. and that exchange, the white house, new had taken on a life of its own when in reality, i m told the issue was really that some senior aides hadn t had a chance yet to speak to the president about the commutation issue. corinne john p, or said yesterday to reporters, i haven t talked to him about this yet. i m not just i m not going to have anything more to say on this, but it certainly was a really remarkable moment. the president speaking on this kind of a stage. on the other side of the world about an issue that has been so deeply sensitive for his entire family, mj lee, thanks more in prison, biden s trip later in the program next though cnn s donie o sullivan talking to trump supporters as well as a historian of dictatorships and autocracies about donald trump and democracy. and later there s breaking news turns out there are even more undisclosed it s trips supreme court justice clarence thomas took paid for by republican megadonor ave heart failure with unresolved symptoms. it may be time to see the bigger picture heart failure and seemingly unrelated he did symptoms like carpal tunnel syndrome shortness of breath an irregular heartbeat could mean something more serious cold, eight ttr cm a rare under-diagnosed disease that worsens over time 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democracy? she is actually not as good as you think it is but for centuries, america has celebrated its democracy democracy is worth dying for democracy remains the definition of political legitimacy, but some republicans and pro-trump media are pushing the idea that america is not a democracy. united states of america kirk is not a democracy. we are constitutional republic. those things were america is not a democracy. you don t want to be in a democracy. we are not a democracy. we are a republic. is america a democracy america is a democracy. it was founded as a democracy. i ve heard a lot of conspiracy theories. i hear a lot of things out on the road but to hear americans, people who would describe themselves as patriots say that america is not a democracy that stopped me in my tracks. you are hearing people say america is not a democracy because there are people around trump who want them to be saying that who ve been planting that narrative? his america democracy i don t i think we ll never know, but yeah, we re republic. what s the difference i feel like democracy what do we think this through its government i don t see freedom in democracy freedom in the republic honestly, the word democracy and the word republic have often been used interchangeably. there isn t a meaningful difference between them. so much of the warnings and criticism about trump is that he is a threat to democracy, that he has anti-democratic. absolutely. if they can convince people that we don t have a democracy, then it s okay that trump is attacking democracy because it doesn t really matter that s why, like why has democracy become a bad word? because it s been used in a way to change the flavor of our country, which is a republic these words were used in different ways in the 18th century and it s true the founders didn t want direct democracy by which they meant people gathering on the town square. they wanted representative democracy. but i think the reason why does conversation about language has so now is because there is a part of the republican party that would like to rule as a minority and they need an excuse for why that s okay. and so they ve begun to say, we re not a democracy. were, are public and it s not 100% clear what that means. but i think they mean we want donald trump to be able to do whatever he wants some people i ve been seeing debt trump events recently. yes. have been saying american is not a democracy. it s a republic and we ve always been my pros. first of all we have sleek. we re use that freedom of speech and freedom of religion. we used to have that two. now they re picking on the christians and the jewish people i mean, how much more can we are you concerned if trump loses yeah. that there ll be another january 6. no. i think there will be a civil war that s what i think will happen during this whole democracy republican is fascinating. this is the first i ve, i ve heard of that new thing that there are now pushing those. it looks like folks on fox are pushing it. is there a reason the people you spoke with think that country isn t a democracy now, i mean, yeah, look, i mean, i understand some of those folks. no doubt genuinely believed that i might have believed for a long time, this isn t necessarily a new talking point. however, we have seen it just revive over the past few months and they re really the reason we did this piece was over the over the past few months, just unprompted. as i was speaking to a lot of trump s supporters, they would bring this very specific lineup i love this real, it s not a debase right about the former government here. it s not a debate about democracy really why this is happening. and you saw it there in that piece, some fox news and elsewhere on conservative and right-wing media people are trying to convince trump s supporters, others that america is not a democracy in the first place. and we actually saw i haven t noticed that this seem to pick up a bit after president biden speech in philadelphia, where he described trump as a threat to democracy. this is how they seem to be trying to twist language to try and neutralize describing trump as a threat to democracy. because if america is not a democracy in the first place, then there s nothing to worry about your winning a solvent. thank you very much. one of the pillars of a democracy is the rule of law and laws of course are enforced by courts and the highest court in the land supreme court is once again under fire tonight. over new ethics concerns, specifically the behaviors surrounding justice clarence thomas. late this afternoon, senate judiciary chairman dick durbin released new information from a major republican donor about more undisclosed trips provided to justice thomas. it follows previous reporting about numerous undisclosed gifts from that conservative billionaire harlan crow, which include private school tuition for a relative of thomases and decade s worth of luxury vacations. last week after the release of his 2023 disclosures, thomas said certain disclosures had been, quote inadvertently omitted wherever last month in a speech, who railed against the quote, nastiness and quote lies directed toward him. draw now by our justice correspondent, just cash snyder, also a former federal district judge, johnny jones, the third and former federal prosecutor elie honig. so jessica, what do we know about these additional trips now that thomas took on harlan crow plane? yeah. the details just being released tonight for i m senator dick durbin. the details are several new trips happened in 2017, 2019, and 2021. so first and may 20, he 17 justice thomas took harlan crows jet from st. louis to montana and then to dallas. then there was a march 2019 flight where he flew roundtrip between washington, dc and savannah and then in june 2021, he flu round trip between washington, dc and san jose, california. all of this on crows jet and really intersect. i mean, these newly revealed flights, it only adds to what we know were other luxury trips that justice thomas enjoyed, bankrolled by harlan crow. there was also but 2019 trip to indonesia where justice thomas stayed on crows mega yacht. so there have been a lot of previously undisclosed travel that s been gifted by harlan crow is a gop megadonor. he s active and conservative causes. justice thomas, though, i ll note anderson has always it s described him as just a dear friend and says they ve never had any discussions about cases before the court. they ve wow, i mean, that that s you you re hanging out with justice supreme court. that s kind of amazing to think. has justice thomas explained why he did not disclose these these trips? because he talks about his love of staying in for vrb travel and drawing ran on a bus yeah. so he hasn t directly answered about these recent disclosures, but his attorney just released a statement tonight. it says this. it says the formation that harlan crow provided to the senate judiciary committee fell under the personal hospitality exemption and was not required to be disclosed by justice thomas the judicial conference change this provision last year, and justice thomas has fully complied with the new disclosure requirement. so i ll expand upon this to really explain it up until last year there was in fact this personal hospitality exemption. so justices, in the way they read it, didn t have to disclose certain benefits, maybe from there wealthy friends, things like when they stayed at their friends properties or traveled on jets. it was just last year, anderson that exemption was removed. so justices now have to disclose these perks, but there s some question as to whether the disclosures need to be retroactive. there s nothing specifically saying justices have to go back now and disclosed year s worth of trips. but it is still coming out and it came out tonight from the senate judiciary committee, judge jones, does this make sense you why wouldn t justice thomas just come clean about everything harlan crow has given him or paid for. why go through this kind of drip, drip, drip? you know, anderson, i have no idea but this has all the allure of a slow motion car accident. it doesn t look good. i toiled in the federal judiciary for 20 years and i love it. i respect it, but this tears that the fabric the code of ethics that the justices are subject to, which is, by the way, not enforceable says in the first canon that it is there to basically preserve the integrity and the independence of the judiciary now, under the circumstances to the point that was just made he amended his is 2023 ethic statement and he added a couple of his trips when you go to the question of retroactivity, i agree it s less than clear so why would you do that? and not include the other trips they re just revealed there s there s no good answer to that elie. i mean, do you agree with the statement from thomas s attorneys saying that because the personal hospitality exemption, he didn t need to not at all, the spirit of these rules is disclosure and these are not just a small gifts, these are gifts and not donations, but gifts worth tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars. and the whole explanation that this is just a friend doing something for me. i mean, i gotta get better friends that this is something more than just a friend paying for his friend. hundreds of thousands dollars over that here for private school tuition for flights, for hotels violates every cannon in this ethics code. and if you remember anderson about a year ago, the supreme court for the first time ever adopted an ethics code. the criticism we made was it s toothless and i think now we re seeing that judge jones i mean, go ahead, judge. while i was going to say it s interesting to ellie s point about having a friend. here s the acid test, and this is not hard and it s not in the statement of ethics at all if you are making a friend because you re on the supreme court of the united states. if that s why this guy is friends with you, then i would suggest to you that if he s providing hospitality, that s just wrong. it just shouldn t happen. and i don t think that s a hard a hard test for any justice or judge observe if i had done this as a district judge, us district judge, i would have been absolutely subject to judicial discipline of the the most pronounced kind, and i would have deserved it. and so to me, there s if clarence thomas was sitting on this circuit court or was the head of the eoc. do you think that harlan crow would afford him this kind of hospitality? 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if it s not binding on the next administration well, anderson, let s step back a second and thank you for having me on and take a look at what president biden is doing at the g7 in europe he is going back to his third g7 with, our alliances restored and rebuilt stronger than ever with the united states leadership embraced in respected and he has rallied the world to defend ukraine, including with a $50,000,000,000 loan that the united states led and negotiating this week using the interest off of the russian frozen assets. he s negotiated this bilateral agreement, which is very valuable in that there is always a cost for the united states when it reneges on its commitments, when it walks back its agreements and while it s not a legally binding treaty, it s a powerful statement of us support and intentions in addition, he s just this week led and imposing tough new sanctions on russia and china. so with joe biden, we have strong leadership that is strengthened our leinz is not only in europe, but in asia and around the world, which makes america more secure and we have a leader who s trusted and respected we contrast that as you did in your opening with donald trump who is so profoundly dangerous, he has not committed to democracy at home or abroad. he embraces dictators he is the president, former president whose own vice president? national security advisors, secretary of state secretaries of defense. yeah, pretty much everybody on the cabinets of staff. all have set are unfit. and what does that say when the people closest to you say you re unfit to lead, that s very, very concerning when you hear from say that vladimir putin would release wall street journal reporter it just adjust if he asked, what i mean, does that make sense to you like, why wouldn t he then just ask now for that to happen? well, that s a good question. i understand. no, of course it doesn t make sense. it s bluster. it s, it s all dishonest and every day we hear something dishonest out of donald trump s mouth. that is inherently self-serving and not anything we can rely on its. you don t just get to wave a magic wand and have a dictator who s hell-bent on not only taking over ukraine but western europe and more if we allow him. and what is donald trump s say? donald i m trump calls putin a genius. donald trump tells putin that he can do whatever he wants. the hell he wants with our nato allies. i mean, it s the height of recklessness self-interest, and danger, and it s not a future that we can be confident in at all, it would undermine our security profoundly at a time when the world is a complicated place, when you are us ambassador to the un, you obviously dealt with nations whose leaders disregard laws, carry out vendettas against their political opponents when you hear don trump talking about getting revenge or retribution does that seem i mean that seem realistic to you? do you believe he would do that? i do believe he would do it. i believe we have if we have learned anything we should listen to what he says and what he does is often exactly what he says and sometimes worse we have in donald trump a leader who is not running to be the president of the american people he s running for his own self-interest to try to stay out of jail and that is incredibly worrying. and when he says that on day one, he intends to be a dictator, that he will come after his political opponents and anybody who has rubbed i m tim the wrong way. i take that very seriously and i think we all should susan rice. thank you for your time thank you. anderson. way up next to cnn exclusive. been wiedemann talks with hamas spokesman in beirut about the remaining hostages they are holding captive in gaza he asked them how many are still alive and why hamas is yet to agree to ceasefire. his responses coming up this is country is corrupt. we ve got to save it do some terrible things for the greater good we need you build. for the soup, start rounding this up and dumping us off in kansas show me, wrap that doesn t sound good. ashley? 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you seem that count star from the beginning. let s start from beijing on. but one why to talk about the base of 7 october what about the israeli came after good luck to 7 october. it was a reaction against the occupation. what camps after that? it shows the real face of israel. it shows how israeli the cube buying the policy and lands demolishing the situation of the palestinians, killing the civilians. it s not the first time they are getting the civilians hamas is, is an organization. does it regret what it did on 7 october, given what happened afterwards? we are living with this for the last 75 years as palestine s yes now, cnn spoke to one of the doctors who treated the for israelis who were freed on saturday. and he said that they suffered mental and physical abuse. and what do you say when he is an israeli has to say what does lay authorities are asking him to say if you compare the images of both before and after releasing, you will find that they were better than before. i believe they have mental problem. this is because of what israel have done in gaza. but in addition to what has been said about the four recent hostages freed there have been also claims about the dire conditions others faced while in captivity. the fate of the remaining hostages hangs in the balance at the g7 summit in italy, us secretary of state antony blinken said, hoping hamas would agree to the latest us backed ceasefire proposal. response we got was unfortunately not the yes that we were looking for a yes that virtually the entire world has given. okay. mr. hamdan simple question. why hasn t hamas yet agreed officially to the us backed posel for a ceasefire who said it s a positive step but we need to see the facts on the ground. we need to know what exactly that president means by saying a ceasefire, i withdraw while what is left, what do you need we need an israeli ideally, a clear position from israel to accept the ceasefire, a complete withdrawal from gaza, and let the palestinians to determine their future by themselves are you optimistic at this point in time that you will reach some sort of agreement well, i think if the united states administration acted in the positive way, seeing the situation not only in the eyes of israel we can reach soon an agreement. and in the absence of an agreement, this war goes on with know site then i mean, this hamas leader justifies the october 7 attack by hamas. and as long as she had an others, which was a violation of an ongoing ceasefire, claimed, no one knows how many hostages are still alive. obviously there are people who know in hamas, any claims that the released, that the hostages who were freed just recently, the four hostages that they are actually better off than they were before they were taken into captivity. i mean, that s just absurd well, that s what he said, but you need to look at it through the lens of how it s been seen in the region anderson there lot of pictures circulating for before and after pictures circulating on social media of palestinian prisoners who d been freed from israeli jails hills the pictures show healthy people going in gaunt, sickly people looking out. no. mr. hamdan, like millions of other in this region are seeing the pictures of these for israelis who were recently freed from gaza, who on the surf base surface superficially looked to be okay. so that seems to be why he s saying this and we re hearing it from many other people as well. keep in mind also that osama hamdan is a political figure in hamas. he is involved in and then negotiating process, but he s not part of the military wing that holds the hostages in gaza, so he s probably not complete the up on the situation in there. and i think what you re hearing in that interview is more a reflection, perhaps social media then his knowledge of the specifics of the hostages themselves anderson, where she refuses even call hostages, but been wiedemann. thank you. appreciate it. we ll be right back three body serie a. city client uses city s financial expertise to help drive its growth and keep its supply chain moving some more pet parents can get everything they need, right when they need it keeping more pets and families happy for the love of moving our clients forward, for the love of progress grass whether you re moving across town or across the country now, you can count on pods to deliver when we say we will, which is why we were voted america s number one container moving company. hook your move today at pods.com, introducing new advil targeted relief. the only topical pain reliever with four powerful pain fighting ingredients that start working on contact to target tough pain at the source for up to eight hours of powerful relief new abdo targeted relief all these games on directv and no satellite on the roof. think about this blue jays cardinals orioles. what s missing? 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on russian territory with us supplied-weapons speaking ahead of the cuban naval visit vladimir putin warned of a possible russian response the easley and you put enough today in the worst supply weapons to the zone of combat operations and call for the use of these weapons against our territory. then why do we not have the right to do the same? to mirror these actions? i m not ready to say that we ll do it tomorrow, but we of course, should think about it elsewhere. moscow has been stepping up tactical nuclear drills to staging exercises with neighboring belarus near the ukrainian border. russian tactical nukes delivered from either ground or air can level entire cities for their the kremlin insists it has no plans at this stage to use the matthew chance cnn moscow thanks to matthew tonight. and thanks to you, of course, as always, for being with us ac30 60 with anderson begins right now tonight on 360. what happens now that the president s son is a convicted felon and why supporters of the convicted felon who is running for president are still complaining about the criminal justice system keeping them honest. also, a cnn exclusive course award goes inside a searing detention camp. were families, vices, fighters are being held and some fear the next generation may be being born. plus we have breaking news tonight. a bus hijacking, a chase and the deadly discovery at the end of it. good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin tonight. keep them honest with three facts about hunter biden s conviction today and wilmington, delaware on federal gun charges. the first is the human impact. it must have on a family that has certainly known tragedy, including a car crash that killed hunter biden s mom and baby sister, the death to brain cancer of his brother beau, and his own descendance itself, destruction by crack cocaine in a moment, ronald reagan s daughter, patty davis joins us to talk about her own struggles with addiction. the second fact is that despite efforts to paint his trial as a counterpart to or even the equivalent of of donald trump s new york trial. unlike the former president a hunter biden is not running for anything. the third fact is the one thing they actually do have in common in each the guilty verdict was rendered by 12 men and women who heard the evidence and seem to have set aside any preconceptions they might have had going in as one biden juror told cnn today, politics played no part in their deliberations, nor did testimony about the degree of biden s addiction, which he described as heart-wrenching. the verdict was unanimous. and just like in new york, there s every indication the criminal justice system worked and continues to beyond that, nearly everything surrounding the two trials and their aftermath is a study in contrast, starting with how egypt defendant reacted to the verdict. quoting now from hunter biden statement, thanking his wife and others. i m more grateful today for the love and support i experiences last week from melissa, my family, my friends, and my community, than i am desert appointed by the outcome. he goes on to say recovery is possible by the grace of god and i am blessed to experience that give one de at a time by contrast, here are some where the former president has said after his conviction this was done by the biden administration in order to wound or hurt an opponent, a political opponent and i think it s just disgrace. but this was a rig decision right from day one, with a conflicted judge should have never been allowed to try this case, never well, he said as much over and over and so have republican lawmakers before, during and after the trial with a special focus on attacking the justice department and the criminal justice system every single person involved in this prosecution is practically a democratic political operative. this was not criminal justice. this was politics. the entire thing is political. it s political warfare, scam trial. this is a scam. it is a sham, sham of a trial sham convictions joe biden s two tier in injustice system while. keeping them on as they re talking about the justice department at which had nothing to do with the trump trial, which is currently prosecuting a democratic senator and congressmen and just oversaw the conviction of the president s only surviving son. and the president s reaction quoting him now, i will accept the outcome of this case and will continue to respect the judicial process. as hunter considers an appeal, jilin, i will always be there for hunter and the rest of our family with our love and support. nothing will ever change that he also told abc news he d ruled out a pardon for his son let me ask you, will you accept the jury s outcome, their verdict, no matter what it is? yes. and have you ruled out a pardon for your son? yes. by contrast, the former president is now talking repeatedly about using the justice department if he s reelected as a tool of vengeance i would have every right to go after them. and it s easy because it s joe biden and you see all the criminality, all of the money that s going into the family and in him, all of this money from china from russia, from ukraine as for republican lawmakers who decried trump s trial and conviction, consider house oversight chair james comer, who has been holding hearings and investigating the bidens for months, always claiming to have the goods, but always coming up empty he is sticking to his story, tweeting today until the department of justice investigates everyone involved in the bidens corrupt influence peddling schemes. it will be clear department officials continued to cover for the big guy, joe biden more now, on the actual verdict and the actual trial and what comes next from cnn s paula reid just 90 minutes after hunter biden s guilty verdict, cnn got incredible insight into the case from juror number ten, won big mistake from the defense, calling hunters daughter naomi, to testify. i felt i felt bad that they put naomi witness i i think that was probably a strategy that should not have been done no daughter should ever have to testify or again, sir, dad despite feeling badly for hunter and his battles with addiction, the 12 jurors agreed that they had no choice but to convict all 12 jurors did agree that yes, he know on laying bought a gun when he was an attic or he was addicted to drugs although they all voted guilty, another juror, cnn spoke to off-camera question whether the case should have been brought in the first place, saying, quote it seemed like a waste of taxpayer dollars and the jurors interviewed by cnn said politics played no role in their decision. pressure, inviting never really even came in to play for me, his name was only brought up one store in the trial and that s when i that s when it kind of sunk and a little bit, but you kind of put that out of your mind. president biden released a statement after his son s verdict saying, in part i am the president, but i am also a dad jill, and i love our son and we are so proud of the man he is today and i will accept the outcome of this case and will continue to respect the judicial process as hunter considers an appeal, hunter also issued a statement after court thanking his wife and supporters saying i am more grateful today for the love and support i experienced this last week from melissa, my family, my friends, my community, than i am disappointed by the outcome. in special counsel, david weiss made aware statement defending the case ultimately, this case was not just about addiction a disease that haunts families across the united states, including hunter biden s family this case was about the illegal choices defendant made while in the throes of addiction. his choice to lie on a government form when he bought a gun and the choice to then possess that gun while it what else did did you hear from jurors understand? i was really interested to hear what they had to say about a possible sentencing for hunter biden then because the upper range for conviction on these offenses is potentially decades in prison, hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines. so it s widely expected hunter biden wouldn t get anything anywhere near that. this is of course, a first-time offender, but juror number ten told us he doesn t think that hunter biden should get any prison time. another juror said that hunter needs rehab more than he needs imprisonment or a fine. and while the jury is weighing in on sentencing, it is ultimately actually for the judge should determine the sentence and we expect, while there is no sentencing date, now we expect it will be roughly 120 days after this verdict, which would fall in late. okay? tibur. so that s before election day, but likely after his next federal criminal trial, which is scheduled for early september out in los angeles i ll read thanks so much, paula, let s go next to the white house from cnn s kayla tausche with more and how the president and the first family are dealing with this moment. what s the reaction been from the white house for president biden? anderson president biden is approaching the situation first and foremost as a father in the statement released today, president biden saying, i am the president, but i m also a dad, jill and i love our son and we are so proud of the man he is today. so many families who have had loved ones battle addiction, understand the feeling of pride seeing someone you love come out the other side and be so strong and resilient in recovery, the family greeted each other on the tarmac in delaware. this evening, hunter biden bracing members of white house staff and members of the security detail before the family then retreated to a nearby family home or they re going to be processing together what happens in the next chapter president biden has said that he will accept the judicial process as hunter considers an appeal and the biden reelection can and pain is telling allies that for them, it s going to be business as usual, the president gave a speech at a previously scheduled gun safety event after the verdict, which obviously is somewhat ironic, what did what did he say there? well, it was a fairly awkward confluence of events today. president biden finding out about that verdict just before this pre-planned event, where he was in this situation of a heralding a crackdown in gun violence and expected to tout a, drop in gun crime all while of these verdict had just come in, we knew that president biden was expected to announce more than 500 new charges brought by the department of justice on gun crimes in wake of his new bipartisan gun law that was passed and signed into law in 2022 instead, the president took a broader approach. instead praising the new tools prosecutors were given by that law. anderson kayla tausche, thanks, joining us now to people who ve worked with and no prison biden welsh and political commentators david axelrod and keep betting field also with retard federal judge johnny jones, the third and former federal prosecutor jessica raw, third, judge. let me start with you. does the verdict surprise util know the verdict didn t surprise me at all. anderson, i think the evidence was overwhelming and, what i thought was notable and picking up one, your lead, which i thought was spot on in both of these cases, you had judges want to state judge and the other a federal judge saying, among other things, you must follow the law 224 americans in these two cases, you must follow the law, whether you agree with it or not, and you re not to be concerned about the sentence that i may give if the defendant is convicted, clearly, it validates our system of justice because they did exactly that. jessica, how about you? i mean, any surprise and what kind of grounds? for appeal may there be? yeah. so i was not surprised by the verdict as the judge said, that the evidence really did seem to be overwhelming and the charges were pretty straightforward in terms of what the jury was being asked to find. i think the k is also highlights the limited role that we give to juries in our system. now, they re asked to apply the laws are instructed about the law to the facts and not to render an opinion in the courtroom about whether they think this was a wise prosecution or what they think is an appropriate punishment. i mean, they re really quite limited. it s not clear to me that there are strong grounds for appeal. i mean, there is a second amendment issue on whether or not the law that makes it a crime to possess a gun. if you are addicted to drugs drugs, whether that survives the second amendment challenge under the supreme court s current jurisprudence on that. but that would really only go to one of the three charges. and so it could be that there are some issues with respect to the evidence that was admitted, but that would be subject to harmless error review maybe there s an appellate issue about whether or not he was entitled to essentially the benefit of the plea agreement that he had reached with the special counsel that previously fell apart, but i don t see those as being particularly strong in david. i mean, you re since the verdict the impact it would have on the biden family and the white house. and i obviously on the campaign trail in the days ahead of any well, yeah. look, i think that s the important question anderson a couple of weeks ago and trump was convicted i said that i thought that really important question was not how it would affect voters directly, but how it would affect him in his behavior. and we ve seen his behavior become even more point until an angry since that conviction here this is such a devastating experience for the biden family to have gone through this week to have their families go through this people get into trouble. they go, but not under the glare of the spotlight. this and to have your dearest relatives on the stand and have to go through this has to be devastating to the present. kate would know this even more intimately than me, but i know how much this must hurt him and there must be some feeling of guilt because he is the reason there s a spotlight on the family and why they re travails are so much in the news. so the question is, how does it affect him? he s got a debate in two weeks he s dealing with multiple world issues right now and all the rigors of a campaign and how will he deal with it? i think is a big question. yeah. kate, we mentioned that the president promptly went to delaware to be with his son and again, the contrast between how the trump family approached the manhattan trial and how the biden family approach this trial has start how do you think this is going to impact the president? well, look, it is absolutely hard on him. he is a family man that you really cannot underestimate are under appreciate how close the biden family is, how much they lean on each other. i think it would be hard for any father to go through, not only the experience of this trial, of course, but obviously all that hunter is dealt with and dealing with addiction and things have happened when he was in the grip of addiction. so yes, of course it is personally hard for the president, but i would also note he s somebody who has shouldered a lot of personal tragedy and difficulty while also juggling being in public office, he lost his son, beau to brain cancer when he was vice president. obviously his as you mentioned at the top has his first wife and baby daughter were killed in a car crash just weeks after he was elected to the senate. so he has spent his entire life in public service shouldering challenges, difficulty holding his family close, but simultaneously executing the duties of the office isn t being able to put to put his work first two. so i think his resilience, i think will really be on display for people over the next few months. i think you saw a little bit today, frankly, when he was speaking at the gun safety event, he was lively. he was engaged. he was clearly talking with a lot of passion about the work he s done on gun safety and talking to them the crowd. so i think i think the american people are going to see a lot of resilience for him, but of course this is hard for him. it s hard for him and higher biden family, judge jones, what would you consider for a sentence on these convictions? and also with the idea in mind that he is facing a tax charge as well that s it potentially more worrisome for well, of course, the judge has to follow what are called the sentencing guidelines, which has my colleague knows are numbingly complicated, but the sentence needs to be sufficient, but not greater than necessary to fulfill the purposes of sentencing i think in this case, because he didn t brandished the gun, he didn t commit a crime of violence is on another crime associated with the purchase of very frankly, anderson over almost 20 years in the federal bench. i never had a stand alone case like this. this is really this actual charges or not something that s been tapped on. this is the pen a zebra case, if you will but i think in this case, there s a good argument for probation or with some kind of help remedial help counseling addiction treatment, and so forth. the real real peril comes with the tax charges because this counts as a conviction which has the it will in fact enhance any sentence that he gets if he s convicted at the tax charges. so there s that that s mandatory. that whatever the charges and this it impacts next, the get certain points for prior convictions. and then of course that case is driven in part by the amount of the tax fraud as well, which escalates the sentencing exposure. that s where he really is in jeopardy of going to prison. i don t think this case so much. david, what do you sitting republicans who were insisting tonight, the justice system is being weaponized again the foreign president, even though president biden s own son was just convicted in federal court and you ve got to menendez case and another congressman yeah, that s really complicated for them for that reason. and remember, yeah, you ve got senator menendez on trial right now. congressman cuellar awaiting trial right now. it just puts the light of the the idea that there s this weaponized justice department of justice department has nothing to do with the manhattan da s office, but it s also complicated for them because they have become so zealot zealous about the second amendment that they don t quite know how to talk about. this. so they re all shifting. and the thing that they re doing, anderson is this whole, the mantra and they all move as one. is this biden crime family thing because really what s at play here is they re strategy is to try and say everybody is corrupt, that everybody is swimming in the same murky waters that donald trump is no different than joe biden. and that voters should discount the fact that donald trump is a convicted felon and has some other major cases pending against him. so i think you re gonna see a lot of that. what congressman comer said today, chairman comer was really disgraceful as you pointed out he has been rolling out this cannon periodically. he lights the fuse and every time a flag comes out that says pop. and there s nothing there. and so if they ve got evidence of a crime maybe they should share it with people instead of just talking about it. and i think they don t because they don t in cape person biden and the foreign president obviously have their first debate on cnn june 27th. are you concerned about trump getting under the president skin by invoking hunter biden. he obviously tried it when they debated in 2020 yeah, he tried in 2020 and it really backfired on him. i mean, i can tell you that the data that we saw on the biden campaign after that first debate, where no trump really wound up and tried to come at hunter. was that what people remembered from that debate was joe biden defending his son, talking about his love for his son relating to when people all across the country who ve had dealt with family members and friends who ve suffered from addiction. so it was actually a very relatable moment that really connected joe biden to people across the country. so i think 44 joe biden, he should certainly expect that donald trump is going to come at him with this on the stage. we know that trump s going to try and throw everything he can it biden to get under his skin. but we ve also seen that this is a failing political argument. trump has tried to make it stick for five years. it hasn t, and it ultimately winds up being an opportunity for people to see joe biden s humanity. and that s very moving and power. david axelrod. thank you, judge jones. jessica roth, as well, coming up next, former first daughter, patty day hey, miss her own struggle with addiction and her thoughts about the verdict and later cnn s clarissa ward is exclusive look inside a syrian detention camp are women and children 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and the pain, all of it inflicts on families being in the public eye are being the child of public figures to add still more complications. my next guest, patty davis knows this well. she is, of course the daughter, of former president reagan and nancy reagan and a new york times op-ed, she writes this about the biden case. it might sound naive and the escaping le, partisan times, but it would be nice if the rest of us or even most of bus could look at how sad this story is. how a man with a loving, supportive family and every advantage and opportunity still fell into the roiling abyss of drug addiction and couldn t stop swimming around in this dark waters. petty davis writes about her own experiences in dear mom and dad, a letter about family memory and the america we once knew thank you so much for being with us. your essay. it was so lovely and to your point in the op-ed, i mean, do you think basic humanity and empathy are? possible in this hyper-partisan moment, the country is in well, i mean, on some days i think it s not possible some days i think it s extinct but i think we have to keep looking for that and we have to keep reaching for it. and i think even some of the comments from the jurors expressed sympathy and compassion for hunter because this is at its root. this is not this story about a hunter biden is not a political story. i don t even think really at its right. it s a crime story, even though he was convicted of some crimes but i think at its root, it is a very sad story about addiction and a disastrous choices that attics make the ripple effects of those choices in families lives and over over time, i mean, obviously this is yes, it doesn t here s the thing about about an you know, when you when you re addicted, your world is very insular. everything is about you and the substance that you re addicted that s that s kind of it, right and once you if you are fortunate enough to let go of that addiction and to stop using whatever substance it is, whether it s drugs or alcohol, you don t immediately change your mode of thinking. you don t immediately like break get out of that. it takes a lot of work and a lot of time and i am assuming that hunter biden is going through that. now. he s starting to realize the extent that his addiction had on everybody else. i think it was very poignant for him. i m probably seeing his daughter testify in court, which has a really difficult thing to do. you were candid about your own struggles with addiction in your teens early 20s in the piece you wrote for the time, as you said, as the daughter of first a governor and then a president? do you know what it s like to live under a glaring, unforgiving spotlight than never dims the choices you make in your life. the mistakes, the stumbles are preserved forever and sometimes tossed out in front of you like a minefield, you have to keep crossing it s i mean, first of all, you re really a lovely writer what kind of scrutiny to you in terms of what did that scrutiny due to you in terms of drug use, what was it like living under that kind of scrutiny? well my drug use wasn t made public. i mean, i have made it public because i ve talked about it since, but i basically i didn t get caught you know, i mean, i wrote about in this book how in my father was governor, i used to, i used to drive. are those so boarded in sacramento on this summer s? i used to drive up to folsom prison because they had a gift shop. how i found out that it keeps other calls from prison. i have no idea. it s not like a 70 is not like i go to google them, but i did and i used to like smoke a joint on the way for some prison, completely stone probably with other joints in my purse fortunately, they didn t search my purse, but a friend of mine when she read this story in my book said, well, were you worried that they would smell it on, you know, i never thought about that. so i never got caught. but the thing that follows me around, what is my activism? in the 80s when my father was president in my sort of stridency and the anti-nuclear movement. and whenever i not whenever i read something about myself, but a lot of times, if i read something about myself, it s patty davis, the rebel daughter president reagan, who protests, protested his policies and everything. it was 40 years ago that is the reality of that political spotlight, which is the harshest spotlight imaginable and unfortunately, hunter biden is going to be followed by yes for the rest of his days, it s just the way that s spotlight has a shelf life of forever. yeah especially now with camera phones and laptops and social media and all of it, which obviously was involved in this trial, that was not around when you were right, you were doing that? yeah yeah. you referenced in your president biden ruling out a pardon for his son, you wrote i m quite sure it wasn t the answer. they re grieving. father wanted to give, but his sons actions and his sons illness forced him into a choice between the primal urge to protect the child and the public responsibility to uphold law that is a terrible place to be. did you ever think when your dad was present that did you ever worry about about it becoming known? or as my drink? yeah. well, i owe well, as governor, i didn t think about it because i was you know, just to strung out on drugs, i didn t think about it, frankly and by the time he was president i had stopped doing drugs but i think like i was saying that that sort of self consumed mode of thinking, i think that was still very much my mode of thinking in the 80s when my father was elected president. and because if i d been thinking more expansively, i think i would have expressed myself differently and not as stridently. i think i probably still would have spoken out about the anti-nuclear in the anti-nuclear movement because i believed in it very strongly but i would have done it differently but i didn t i you know what i mean? it was still that well, i m going to do 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boys are separated from their mothers it s produced fears that these facilities could be raising the next generation of isis fighters. cnn s first award was granted extraordinary access aside, those camps. here s her in-depth report. cell phone videos of isis is brutal justice that the world hoped it would never see again. she, my mom amash shared for the first time with cnn these images weren t captured in rocco or mosley and 26 steam they were taken in 2022 in the al-hol camp in northern syria the sprawling dumping ground for the women and children captured after isis was defeated five years after the fall of the caliphate isis is ideology lives on here security officials warn it is a ticking time bomb ungovernable and hostile to the outside world you can see just how fast this places more than 40,000 people are living here. and the most dangerous part of the camp is called the annex. that s where some 6,000 foreign nationals are currently within we were granted exceptionally rare access to the annex by the us back syrian democratic forces will sdf, who control the camp? the women here hail from more than 60 different countries several raise their right index fingers for the cameras, sign of solidarity with the islamic state do you regret your decision to join isis or wash she complains that the conditions in the camp are awful. there are people in the world who will say, you went to join isis. you deserve it. you deserve it. what do you say to that normally if enemy yeah. women and children need the majority of alcohols residents are kids who have ended up here through no fault of their own un has called it a blight on the conscience of humanity. it is effectively a prison camp for women and children are arbitrarily and indefinitely detained should to a group stops us with a frantic plea. one of their sons has been arrested trying to escape the camp. she s asking if she can get her son back, who s in a prison he s got me for monday need that youth march. we want to just send them out so the sdf wouldn t take him. she tells us, once boys turn 12 year, they take them it is a troubling story we hear over and over again the sdf says, it is their policy to separate adolescent boys because they are being radicalized by their mothers an sdf raid earlier here this year netted this video of a training session for children inside the camp. the sdf claims young teenage boys are married off to repopulate the next generation of isis fighters they say may explain the roughly 60 births recorded here every mother this is where some of those boys end up after they are taken. the or cash rehabilitation center conditions here are much better than the camps, but there are only one 150 beds and they are all full shamil. chicago grew up in cologne, germany until his parents took the family to the isis capital rocha. a shrapnel injury to his head has left shamil confused. how old are you come home? my bot without if you don t know shamil was living in our whole camp with his mother and siblings until a few years ago when security forces came into their tent in the middle of the night in colombia enough for a man came and pulled me up and tied my hands behind my back. my mom was screaming. she said leave him alone. he tells us i didn t want to go with them. he pushed me saying, put on your shoes, but i didn t hit me islam is from dagestan, russia, and is one of the youngest boys here three to it s via mama so he s saying that he is just 12-years-old. he has been here about three or for months. he was taken from his mother he doesn t even know what his last name is human rights organizations have said the separations are on a pauling violation of international law but the sds top general must loom abdi defends the policy. no duck admin instead of these organizations condemning what we re doing and calling it a human rights violation. these organizations should give us help when it comes to our program that we have in place for years now to rehabilitate these children the part of the problem seems to be that once these young boys turn 18, there s not anywhere for them to go, particularly if they can t return to their home countries. and so some of them i believe are ending up in prison necessity taken when he says this is not a policy that we are following to put them in prison at 18. the reality is, the goal is to reintegrate them with society but cnn has found that boys as young as 14 had been held here at the notorious panorama prison with an estimated 4,000 inmates. it is the largest concentration of isis fighters in the world. no journalist has been allowed inside panoramas since 2021 until now so the head of the prison has asked me to put on a head scarf what we walked through here because these are some of the most radicalized prisoners they have a senior us official told us the number one concern panorama is a prison break. of fear that was realized in 2022 when hundreds of inmates managed to escape and i look inside 25 men sit cross-legged in silence cell is spotless. the men we see appear to be indecent physical condition but tuberculosis is rampant in the prison. and we are only allowed to look inside two cells you versus your where he found a british man approaches the great, but does not want to show his face i know advocacy groups called the us that s funded panorama illegal black hole, worse than guantanamo bay in an interrogation room we meet 19-year-old stephane ucc or lou from suriname. he tells us he was brought to the prison when he was 14 along with more than 100 other miners have you had a lawyer ever you talk to a lawyer? well, i don t know about the big guys if you speak about the kids assume well, if you know the truth, we don t know even why we re always like punning just like five years in prison, i were punished we don t even know what he s done. like we ve been in prison because of our clients at the sdf intelligence headquarters, we need british pakistani dr. mohammed socket, accused of joining isis. he claims he was the victim of an elaborate kidnapping plot. it says panoramas, inmates are abused. so we live in torture i live in fear we you say you live in torture, do you mean that you are actually physically? ugly being tortured this happens on an off. what kind of torture like beating by the stick, by the gods to be on the side. i m just waiting for my death there s no getting out of this prison. probably never the warden at panorama called psaki pbs claim of abuse it was false saying, quote, all parts of the prison are monitored by cameras and no prison guard can act in this way the sdf and the us are pushing countries just to repatriate their citizens from syria, saying it is the only solution to this complex and dangerous situation. but the process has been slow and many including western allies are dragging their feet in the owl rose can we meet brits, canadians belgians australians, and a couple of americans survive basically 30-year-old hoda methanol has been stuck here with her seven-year-old son for more than five years i have to ask you, i m seeing all of the women here are fully covered. a lot of them covering their faces. you re not covered, you re wearing a t-shirt is that hard it was hard when i first took it. i would say for the first 23 years people were not accepting of it and they harassed us but they stole our stuff and i had to stay strong and show example for my son born and raised in the us, hoda became radicalized online at the age of 20 left her family and alabama to live under you re isis, a decision she quickly regretted if you were to be able to go back to the us and you had to go on trial, potentially serve time in prison. have you reconciled yourself without possibility? i always tell myself that i m going to prison would be a step forward in my life if i had any time to serve, i d server and come out and begin my life with my son for now. that is not an option. while the us advocates repatriation, it ruled holders us citizenship invalid on attacking my palette, i didn t write now, she lives in fear for her son s future what do you miss most about america i just want to breathe at moroccan era and be around people. i loved the people of america. they re very open and they re very forgiving and they re very, they re people who give second chances and i think if they were to sit down with me and listen to my story from the beginning, they would give me a second chance but second chances are hard to come by here. for most repentance is demanded and forgiveness rarely given. as the cost of ignoring this ugly crisis continues to mount first award joins us now, i mean, it s extraordinary to think of all these people in this limbo. you said the us government and rule the citizenship of the american woman you spoke with invalid on a technicality. what else what else do you know better situation node and what viewers authorities commented at all? yes. so we ve reached out anderson to the state department about who does case and they said to us the department has not changed its position with regards to ms madonna s citizenship status as the state department determined in the courts agreed she is not an never was a us citizen. we also heard anderson from her lawyer who responded, if hold them, athena is not a us citizen than she is stateless. and that is a violation of international law. all the directly contradicts what the us government has stated. other countries cannot and should not do. and i should add anderson that a senior us official told us there are about a dozen americans who are still in these camps in northeastern syria. the repatriation process is not straightforward though, because many of them, unlike the coda, don t actually want to go back. we spoke to one woman who asked not to be identified. she said that she has not put her hand up yet. she is a dual national and that she doesn t feel comfortable returning to the us because she s 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have 23 people wounded. and while please run that scene, they got word of shots fired on a transit bus, just a few miles away and into a bus hijacking than a police chase onto the interstate finally, when that ended, police made a grim discovery. more now in all, from cnn s ryan young begin around 430 after a call about gunfire and a hostage situation on a bus when officers arrived to investigate, the bus takes off and the chase begins from above, you can see the county bus swerving uncontrollably through rush hour traffic and atlanta dangerously moving in and out of traffic through city streets and onto the highway where elana police officers desperately tried to get the bus pulled over. our initial call was of a gunman on on the bus that was holding hostages and possibly there had been a discharge of a weapon that was the initial nine will warn call that call disconnected, and then a short time later we received another 911 call also from the bus, and that line remained open for the entire time. officers tried blocking the bus in the attempt to use stop sticks, but the bus avoids early attempts to stop it. all of it through atlanta s rush hour traffic at one point, the bus almost hits this truck. it s worth around the car and then veers into traffic as drivers scrambled to get out of the way, a gunman with a gun to the head of a bus driver saying, don t stop this bus or else worst will happen. this is the type of thing that obviously no one is. i mean, it seems like the movies later the bus narrowly misses another group of cars as it drives on the left side of the road before coming to a stop on this tree-lined road, there were 17 individuals on the bus and putting the bus driver unfortunately, as the mayor has stated, one individual has died of injuries which we believe to be a gunshot wound. this is going to be a joint investigation by the atlanta police department as well. was from the georgia bureau of investigation. we currently do have in custody a 39-year-old joseph career officers from several police departments surround the bus. you can see someone coming out with their hands up before he gets on the ground. police at the ready, guns drawn with a tactical armored vehicle on the sea police find one person shot and killed anderson. we re also finding out the man who was arrested as a convicted felon, but i want to tell you something we were doing a news conference about that earlier shooting. and this start happening. i got a phone call from a source that was saying they could see several police cars chasing this car through the streets of atlanta. it was very harrowing. in fact, they saw officers trying to use their car to block that bus, but such a large vehicle moving through the city, it s amazing that no one else got seriously injured, even though sadly, one person did lose their life on that bus today? yes, i m just terrifying ryan young. thank you. now, to exclusive new reporting voting from behind bars, a unique development in the narrowly divided state and nevada, which could determine who wins the white house in which party controls the senate or murray has more inside the largest jail in sin city. it s my first time voting. for the first time that you ve ever vote in any election is when is here in the detention center? yeah. natalie inmates escorted to this holding and then a voting booth. the first one ever set up in the clark county detention center in las vegas. nor are you surprised that there was going to be a voting booth here today? yeah, i was surprised. yeah, it was i didn t expect to its debut just in time for primary de the result of a new law requiring improved valid access for thousands of non felons detained in nevada s jails soon after the booth opened the first voter cast her ballot. how did it feel to be able to cast your vote? it felt nice actually felt good for activists. shigella chambers. you can put that on my epa ten it s a hard-fought victory. there is a pressure for us to shine brightly on this first run. a felony conviction after a violent altercation during college costs, chambers his freedom and his voting rights for more than five years. and i feel that someone who is doing this work needs to be formerly incarcerated to engage their population now we worked for the non-profit silver state poises, running outreach to thousands of potential voters behind bars. one of the first bullet points on here it says why you cannot vote, okay, that s the key. you i cannot vote if you are serving a sentence on a felony conviction in a city or county jail, then it makes clear if you re pretrial or serving on a misdemeanor you re eligible jackpot. one of the biggest hurdles, convincing eligible incarcerated voters to cast a ballot amid polarization and misinformation, more than 2,500 ballots were cast by individuals whose names and dates of birth match incarcerated felons. do you think that has an impact on even people who are eligible to vote without question, without question it took months and the threat of lawsuits for jails to get up just be we had an election happened, but no jail fully. what s compliant with the law facilities across the state worked with voting rights groups like the aclu and election workers to finally ensure ballot access ahead of tuesday s primary, their vote should not be any less important than the individuals that are out here. and unfortunately, they face those barriers that we were here on outside, don t even really think about those barriers. the basics for those who are behind bars postage for change of address forums. blue and black pens to fill in balance and at least in this jail a polling booth something that goes beyond what the law while requires. this is something that is the first for us and i think we re going to probably do it better than anybody else. we ve tried to pride ourselves on that there really was no model for us to follow. we ve had a couple of opportunities to make sure we get it right for the general election in november chambers hopes this is one step toward politicians actively campaigning for voters behind bars in clark county. you have potential victory is lying in those sales at least for now. i want to i guess is it makes a huge difference night, i step toward voters like elliot carver hall having their voices heard, it felt a little bit of empowerment, a little slow, a little tiny bit sara marie joins us now from las vegas. so this is the first time he s running boost had been used. how did the process go? it went pretty smoothly, although there were voters who showed up to vote and found out they were actually registered in a different county or in some cases, in a different state, which is negating the education gap that still exist for those who are behind bars. there were dozens of folks who wanted to vote from the jail today and we expect that that s going to number is going to be even longer when we get to the general election in november. this was sort of a dry run for the big event coming up, anderson be interesting to do polling and see if they re running for it? sir, maria, thanks so much in news continues. the src